Thanos vs Michael & Lucifer....

Started by Enyalus3 pages

Originally posted by lordraiden
In what way? I believe Micahel is actually more powerfull, as he has (or had the Durmiurgos power, till he died and went to his daughter, elain beloc) not that Lucifer is anything to be trifled at. Lucifer just hapens to be more cunning.

Michael's power is supposedly infinite.

Lucifer's will is supposedly infinite.

I believe the Lucy statement a lot more than I believe the Michael one.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Michael's power is supposedly infinite.

Lucifer's will is supposedly infinite.

I believe the Lucy statement a lot more than I believe the Michael one.

That's what I said, Michael has the power (again, not that Lucy's power is anything to sneeze at, Michael just has the edge on him in the pure power department) and Lucifer has the ultimate will/cunning mind!

1. Not sure..but i think Thanos takes majority..

2. Thanos easily..

Something else I wanted to bring up that i've recently read elsewhere, is that the events of Marvel: The End were contained sololy withing the 4321 reality, that it didn't encompass the omniverse the way the IG did! "the Official handbook of the Marvel Universe places the events Marvel the End in reality 4321. Andy Schmidt and Tom Breevort have both confirmed that." Is another statement I read, which puts the Hotu as the most powerfull weapon and above the IG dubious, at best.

Originally posted by lordraiden
Something else I wanted to bring up that i've recently read elsewhere, is that the events of Marvel: The End were contained sololy withing the 4321 reality, that it didn't encompass the omniverse the way the IG did! "the Official handbook of the Marvel Universe places the events Marvel the End in reality 4321. Andy Schmidt and Tom Breevort have both confirmed that." Is another statement I read, which puts the Hotu as the most powerfull weapon and above the IG dubious, at best.

Not true.

That pharaoh, A-something, I think came from that universes. The events happened in 616 and the entire MU itself. That's confirmed multiple times throughout the story and in Thanos' bio and on Marvel.com's bio of the Marvel Universe.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Not true.

That pharaoh, A-something, I think came from that universes. The events happened in 616 and the entire MU itself. That's confirmed multiple times throughout the story and in Thanos' bio and on Marvel.com's bio of the Marvel Universe.

I'm not confirming it as true or not. but it has been stated by editors, so not sure if it's been retconned to be contained within that universe or not? I'm honestly not sure myself, but food for thought!

Originally posted by lordraiden
I'm not confirming it as true or not. but it has been stated by editors, so not sure if it's been retconned to be contained within that universe or not? I'm honestly not sure myself, but food for thought!

I'd need to see the article in question to believe that. Because Starlin - the writer - did an interview and explained that it was in fact the whole Marvel Universe that was killed/absorbed and reborn. And Marvel.com's history of the Marvel Universe only confirms that.

I don't see how michaels power is supposedly infinite it was laid out very clearly with statements like spark that expands forever and ocean of power with no shore or how when he was going to die if his power wasn't passed onto elaine it was going to pour out and overwhelm everything that exists.

Thanos loses first, wins second effortlessly.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
I don't see how michaels power is supposedly infinite it was laid out very clearly with statements like spark that expands forever and ocean of power with no shore or how when he was going to die if his power wasn't passed onto elaine it was going to pour out and overwhelm everything that exists.
Do you think it is infinite or not?

Originally posted by lordraiden
Featwise? Hmmm, might have to get you to look into Lucifers feats, let alone Michaels ;-)
I have read the Lucifer serious few times. Which specific feat would make it a clear win against the IG?

Originally posted by Mindset
Do you think it is infinite or not?

Of course its infinite it was spelled out rather clearly its gods power.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Of course its infinite it was spelled out rather clearly its gods power.

Sure. But even Yahweh admitted he wasn't truly omnipotent. So I don't see how Michael's power could be truly infinite.

And even if that were the case, its pretty obvious he can't use it to its fullest ability. This isn't Marvel and that different levels of infinity garbage. A being with infinite power in DC shouldn't ever lose.

Actually dc does have levels of infinityhttp://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2981/jla02906.jpg

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Actually dc does have levels of infinityhttp://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2981/jla02906.jpg

WTF does that prove? That's just a very typical boast.

Not sure on he first one, probably duo but Thanos in 2nd.

There seemed to be a great deal of limitations to Thanos' power. Like the inability to fix a flaw in the Marvel multiverse. I greatly doubt Lucifer would have such a power in his own multiverse. Unfortunately, this is probably a mental limitation and I don't think that it indicates that he can be defeated. It's probably just a sign of his inexperience with it. Yes, I claim inexperience, despite the supposed "omniscience"

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
There seemed to be a great deal of limitations to Thanos' power. Like the inability to fix a flaw in the Marvel multiverse. I greatly doubt Lucifer would have such a power in his own multiverse. Unfortunately, this is probably a mental limitation and I don't think that it indicates that he can be defeated. It's probably just a sign of his inexperience with it. Yes, I claim inexperience, despite the supposed "omniscience"

Yeah. Even Thanos is too stupid for handling the power of THOTI and its responsibilities. That is why he let it go. Thanos always wanted power and when he got the ultimate power, he let it go. It was too much and anyway it was TOAA plan. Lucifer+Michael are no match for THOTI. They would only be an addition when he wrecked MU.

The word infinite is over-exaggerated. Besides one man's opinion doesn't mean it true.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The word infinite is over-exaggerated. Besides one man's opinion doesn't mean it true.
That's when overall feats/abilities come into play.