ROTS scenario, Yoda takes Obi Wan with him to defeat The Emperor

*does not fulfill Eminence's expectations*

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
*does not fulfill Eminence's expectations*

In bed?

Well played sir. Well played indeed.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Well played sir. Well played indeed.

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Obi1 might get in the way a bit but together they will probably win.

Really doubt that.

Obi-Wan kills himself like Visas and this weakens Sidious who always had a thing for him, and then Yoda wins.

sids would bring Anakin, and there is no lava this time..

Why would Obi Wan get in the way?

If multiple Jedi outnumbering Palpatine is a disadvtange, why did Mace bring along 3 other Jedi Masters?

Because he wanted Red Shirts to spice up the confrontation.

Originally posted by Placidity
Why would Obi Wan get in the way?

If multiple Jedi outnumbering Palpatine is a disadvtange, why did Mace bring along 3 other Jedi Masters?

Obi-Wan's presence would hinder Yoda. As a Jedi, and with a semblance of compassion and caring, Yoda would worry about Kenobi being killed, thereby forcing him to cease an attack on Sidious and switch to defense--hardly the goal of the operation. In some situations, numbers confer no advantage, especially if emotions play a substantial part, like in this case.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Incidentally, those 3 Jedi died in seconds while the solitary fighter beat Sidious.

Obi-Wan's presence would hinder Yoda. As a Jedi, and with a semblance of compassion and caring, Yoda would worry about Kenobi being killed, thereby forcing him to cease an attack on Sidious and switch to defense--hardly the goal of the operation. In some situations, numbers confer no advantage, especially if emotions play a substantial part, like in this case.

Obi Wan, THE master of Soresu having fought a huge multitude of Sith, one of the most famous and powerful Jedi in history and having done a number of feats that few other jedi have accomplished would hinder his side in a battle? Am I missing something here? Even if Sidious could one shot Obi Wan, doing so would let his guard down and expend his energy, giving Yoda an opening to attack FTK.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Obi Wan, THE master of Soresu having fought a huge multitude of Sith, one of the most famous and powerful Jedi in history and having done a number of feats that few other jedi have accomplished would hinder his side in a battle? Am I missing something here? Even if Sidious could one shot Obi Wan, doing so would let his guard down and expend his energy, giving Yoda an opening to attack FTK.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
As a Jedi, and with a semblance of compassion and caring, Yoda would worry about Kenobi being killed, thereby forcing him to cease an attack on Sidious and switch to defense

And likewise, if Yoda went on an all-out offense, it would force Palpatine to focus more on Yoda. He could hardly handle Yoda in RotS, seems silly to entertain the idea he could toy with Obi-Wan while managing to not get killed by Yoda.

I don't recall 2v1 ever being a disadvantage. And rightly so, it just doesn't make any sense unless you put some spin on it.

"This time we take him together ".

- Obi-Wan Kenobi

He toyed with Yoda quite a bit in the Pod-flinging scene. We've all established around here that Yoda was no match in that fight. Kenobi would only get in Yoda's way, something Yoda could not afford.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
He toyed with Yoda quite a bit in the Pod-flinging scene. We've all established around here that Yoda was no match in that fight.

yoda would not have lost if he wasnt so small and hadnt been so close to the edge of the pod. his loss is comparable to anakins loss at the lava place.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Because you know, Obi-Wan can chuck Senate pods around like baseballs, deflect Lightning from the most powerful Sith lord with his bare hands, and raise his power level to over 9000.

and fire kamehamehas, as well as getting more powerful as the battle progresses. Then his hair turns goldern/blonde/yellow and fires yellow balls of ki energy. (broly)

Originally posted by Eminence
I must've missed this.

It's not surprising.

Video of reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nZ624mrCE4

From 2:35, you see that Palpatine's all chuckles when it comes to Yoda. This carries on throughout the pod scene; Sidious literally has thousands of projectiles to hurl, and Yoda's obviously more focused on evading them rather than -- as demonstrated -- expending precious energy trying to deflect them. This is speculation, but Palpatine was probably of the mentality that he would keep his distance, allowing Yoda to burn through his Force reserves.

From 3:03 to 3:12, Yoda is preoccupied maintaining the weight of the pod and spinning it back to Palpatine; Palpatine doesn't give a shit. He, in fact, laughs into his hand. Given the obvious effort it took to stop a single pod, Palpatine was in a clear position to press his advantage.

But that's what happens when you're a cocky bastard.

Now before Janus comes in here and forces me to obliterate the creek-freezing bastard that he is, I will clarify: this does not in any way mean that Yoda "was no match" for Sidious, but that Sidious frequently held a position of clear advantage where he could have possibly struck a clear victory (the other time is when Yoda was unconscious).

Yoda, meanwhile, did not.

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Lucien
We've all established around here that Yoda was no match in that fight.

Eminence
I must've missed this.

Gideon
I will clarify: this does not in any way mean that Yoda "was no match" for Sidious