Originally posted by OriginalA
Corruptable? It was never corrupted. It was removed from the stone, reforged by the dwarves, and then enchanted by the Fat Fairy. The Four Sword has been corrupted, but that sword is a lesser sword of Evil's Bane.Statistaclly speaking the Master Sword (WW) is the weakest version prior to being empowered, which then brings it to beyond the Master Sword's power from OoT (since this time it is actually able to kill Ganondorf[after several Light Arrows]). In Twilight Princess it is augemented with the power of the Sols to make the Light Sword, which again kills Ganondorf [after several Light Arrows].
In ALttP the Master Sword is on par damage wise when compared to the Master Sword in OoT. Then it is reforged, and enchanted and is then four times more powerful than the Master Sword was in OoT. Still at this time it cannot kill Ganon since Ganon has the complete Tri-Force rather than a single piece. Once weakened by the Master Sword he can be killed by the Silver Arrows though.
Either way the Arrows are still a crucial point in killing Ganon[dorf] and since Link doesn't have them in this fight then he cannot possibly win against Ganon.
Additionally from a purely statistical stand point both Light Arrows and Silver Arrows do more damage to standard enemies than a single sword slash from any varients of the Master Sword (with the exception of the Light Sword against Twilight Monsters, but since Light Arrows cannot be used as well it is possible that they too would instantly kill them as well since it works on the same princeple [attacking darkness based creatures with pure light]).
I wholly disagree with you. If it can be tempered by earthly means, then someone can argue that it could be destroyed by earthly means. That alone is why I consider it to be inferior. Also, its origin in LTTP is only known to be an "ancient treasure of the Hylians." - A lady in Kakariko
The origin of the MS in OoT is not disclosed. Also, it is never upgraded in any fashion. The MS of TP absorbed the Sol orbs. This means that the Master Sword can be affected by an outside source, definitely good, but it could be argued for a negative effect as well. The leads me to conclude that the Master Sword of OoT is the one of my preference in the series because there is no proof of corruption and because of its control of Time that is exclusive to OoT (another debunk to the timeline theory).
You can shoot G-dorf with Silver or Light arrows all day, but without the Master Sword, he will never be defeated.
"You can shoot G-dorf with Silver or Light arrows all day, but without the Master Sword, he will never be defeated."
Funny since in LoZ and LttP the Silver Arrows are the only thing capable of killing him. In those games you can slash at him all day and still not be able of killing him.
In TP Light Arrows were used extensively prior to the sword fight; making the Master Sword not the only weapon used to kill Ganondorf.
The Master Sword's ability to control time is limited to the Temple of Time and all that is within it. OoT shows that the flow of time is indirect within the Temple and TP shows this again, but each time it is only the temple's occupants that is travelling around time and it is only through the connetion of the Master Sword and the Temple through the Pedestal of Time is this time travel achieved.
In Wind Waker the Master Sword has dulled because Ganondorf weakened it, even though this is the same, "best" Master Sword that was seen in OoT. Then it was tempered with by mere mortals (Sages) to strengthen its Evil's Bane property back to full power.
In LoZ there isn't even a Master Sword to weild against Ganon, but with the Silver Arrows he is killed.
In Oracles (which is an isolated instance) the Master Sword isn't needed to kill him agian; it is only needed to hurt him without using a spin attack. This is the only instance were Ganon is killable without the Master Sword and Silver Arrows.
According to Twilight Princess the Master Sword was forged by the Sages, and OoT and WW both showed that the Sages are only beings from the world. Since the Pedestal of Time and Temple of Time is present in both games that means that the TP Master Sword is the same as the OoT Master Sword.
Even in OoT the Biggoron's sword is more powerful than the Master Sword, but it lacks the Evil's Bane property.
Finally part of the Split Timeline Theory was confirmed by the creaters of TP in an offical statement; making at least the fact that OoT splits into either WW or TP a canon fact for the Zelda Series.
Actually its purpose is to be a blade of Evil's Bane. Guess what, the Four Sword was also a blade of Evil's Bane, yet that one couldn't kill Ganon.
The Master Sword couldn't have been specifically made to kill Ganon because it was created long before Ganon existed. OoT is the first appearance of Ganondorf and yet the Master Sword is seen to be held within the Temple of Time long since undisturbed behind the Door of Time. It is impossible for the Master Sword to be made solely for the purpose of killing one specific individual when said individual did not currently exist.
Yet still in EVERY GAME on a GAME BY GAME basis the Master Sword ALONE canNOT kill Ganondorf.
EDIT: Except the Oracles event, in which case Ganon was severly outside of his normal attributes anyways.
EDIT 2: Timeline theory is based on some facts. Of those facts that have been directly stated is the fact that OoT split the timeline, and that WW and TP are generational sequals to the events in OoT and have direct referances to the OoT events. By extention the Master Sword seen in those three games is the same sword with the same abilities.
Finish him off? Watch it again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ex-Cpsnkyo&feature=related
Link thought he had destoryed Ganon already. Link made no move to attack Ganon. In fact he moved to stop Midna from attacking Ganon ;probably because he was either afraid that she would cause devistation on a large scale, or because he knew that not even her attacks would be effective against Ganon.
Considering that thus far in the game Midna had shown the ability to totally obliterate her enemies (Zant) while Link could only kill them; claiming that Link would have finished Ganondorf off without any help from anyone else is a total supposition on your part and you have no real proof that Link would have been able to win.
The very fact that her attack had enough power behind it to destroy the entire Hyrule Castle and yet Ganondorf still lived through it (her actually regained his human form so he actually regenerated considerably during that attack) proves that Ganondorf would not be brought down without another element being added to the mix.
Link destroyed Ganon's body in that scene; I'm not denying that, but Ganondorf lived through that and recouperated with no sign of slowing down.
Why do you think that by adding more of something that isn't working would provide a differante result? That is one of the definitions of insanity, so I don't see why it would work when logic dictates that it wouldn't and there is no proof to the contrary other than you not wanting it to be.
By the way, if the Light Arrows were overkill then why didn't they kill him? Hmm? Maybe because they removed his invulnerablity are were a needed part of the battle in order for Link to be able to kill Ganondorf perhaps.
obliterate her enemies vs just killing them.... shut up link got the job done. link tried to keep midna back because he knew the only way to beat him was the master sword. if all it took were the arrows then zelda should have blasted ganondorf from the get go.
the definition of insanity is repeating the same process expecting different results.
you never proved ganon's invulnerability which you keep bringing up.
Originally posted by SuperLuigithe definition of insanity is repeating the same process expecting different results.
you never proved ganon's invulnerability which you keep bringing up.
Kinda like someone else on this forum 🙄
Whats with the horde of Zelda fanboyism lately? Sephiroth fanboyism has always been around but the Zelda variety is quite recent, unless its just screampaste and a few other accounts hes somehow hooked up.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Kinda like someone else on this forum 🙄Whats with the horde of Zelda fanboyism lately? Sephiroth fanboyism has always been around but the Zelda variety is quite recent, unless its just screampaste and a few other accounts hes somehow hooked up.
P.S. You're the one repeating yourself about Kain so much :] Atleast I bring facts to the table, sir.
Thanks for coming to a seperate thread I barely participate in to mention me though, your worship is noted, but name dropping is in bad taste.
Worship noted. </3