it depends which armor he is wearing when it comes to strength and durability one feat from three yrs ago or a decade ago cant be used for the current doom..
i heard his base strength was somewhere in the 5 to 10 ton range at one time but it has changed since then... some of his armor has had better durability then other, some are of different material as well..
i guess we need to see what modern dooms durability feats are.
Originally posted by Mindset
It's not under Stark's, where are you getting this?
Mighty Avengers when Tony unleashed Shield and Avengers on castle Doom. Tony took Doom on in a hand to hand grappling match....
Tony won the bout but Doom then used magic to bind Ironman.
Extremis Armour had Doom's down to around 20% while Tony's was higher.
Extremis is the highest level of average Ironman armour until we see his new one after Siege.
Originally posted by the ninjakYea, except that's not what happened.
Mighty Avengers when Tony unleashed Shield and Avengers on castle Doom. Tony took Doom on in a hand to hand grappling match....Tony won the bout but Doom then used magic to bind Ironman.
Extremis Armour had Doom's down to around 20% while Tony's was higher.
When Tony's armor was at 93% Doom's was at 97%, then the only other percent we saw was Doom's. Tony didn't win anything, where are you getting Tony's was higher?
Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, except that's not what happened.When Tony's armor was at 93% Doom's was at 97%, then the only other percent we saw was Doom's. Tony didn't win anything, where are you getting Tony's was higher?
Damn I'm not gonna rummage through the boxes.
But Doom resorting to magic was enough for me to see that he was overwhelmed and had to resort to alternate measures.
Regardless of the fight Extremis armour is a beast and I would be very surprised if Doom's was more brutally capable of raw speed and strength through scientific means other than mystical.
Doom will beat Tony in a fight.... but take the incantations away from Doom and I reckon Tony would have got the upper hand that day.
Originally posted by the ninjakThere's no indication Doom needed to resort to magic, but he was planning on taking on all the Avengers so I doubt he wanted to tax his suit too much which would then need to reboot.
Damn I'm not gonna rummage through the boxes.But Doom resorting to magic was enough for me to see that he was overwhelmed and had to resort to alternate measures.
Regardless of the fight Extremis armour is a beast and I would be very surprised if Doom's was more brutally capable of raw speed and strength through scientific means other than mystical.
Doom will beat Tony in a fight.... but take the incantations away from Doom and I reckon Tony would have got the upper hand that day.
Anyway, after he phucked IM up he took a hit from Sentry and was still at 7%.
You'd be surprised because you evidently don't know that much about Doom. Doom tech > Tony's.
Originally posted by Mindset
There's no indication Doom needed to resort to magic, but he was planning on taking on all the Avengers so I doubt he wanted to tax his suit too much which would then need to reboot.Anyway, after he phucked IM up he took a hit from Sentry and was still at 7%.
You'd be surprised because you evidently don't know that much about Doom. Doom tech > Tony's.
I have to agree for I always saw Doom as being a combination of Reed, Stark and Strange making him nightmarishly overwhelming.
I just haven't seen enough feats of the armour alone without magical aid to gauge it.
But as I said Doom would beat Tony anyday. The question is without magic is Doom's armour alone enough to beat Piotr in a straight melee fight considering Colossus' soak and strength. And I can only gauge that by Tony's armour with his upgraded speed. Tony always refers to his abilities with scientific explanations whereas Doom just does his thing and walks away.
From the Doom Respect thread:
Doom tanks brutal beating from Comsic Hulk robot (whom just manhandled both Rulk and A bomb simultaneously). He brushes off the beating and is able to catch and hold back a strike from this beast.
Yeah... I'd say Doom could keep up with Colossus. Just a little bit...
