Rogue-storm vs Apocalypse

Started by Wei Phoenix18 pages
Originally posted by stormultt
i can give some of them a vouch for it stormfront, because rogue-storm hasnt appeared in decades lol and she never got off her feet but i think it is a prologue of what is to come with her and what she can do n much much more thats y i still excite about the subject of her power.

Pretty much, she lacks feats that suggest infinite power and stuff. Not running out of power for 30 minutes or 5 hours doesn't suggest anything near that imo.

Originally posted by stormfront
your resorted to calling her crazy... oooook.

Oh, get a sense of humor. She's definitely not of sound mind. Regardless, sane or not, I take what most comic book characters say with a grain of salt. I'm not saying they're liars, just that they are supposed to be people and people are people. I could give a good example for that but it would require mentioning people who aren't Storm.

you obviously wanted to get on my nerves. a feat in which you acomplished... you assumed that everything that i and stormmultt have shown and proven was fake. i ignore your assumtion and told you you already know that that isnt true.

you must have made yourself beleive it.


Never did I assume or say everything you and other Storm fan is false. And never was my intention to get on your nerves, but keep in mind, I don't care if I do get on your nerves unintentionally. I'm not here to troll people but I'm not here to pamper them either.

What I am saying, is Rogue-Storm is a half dozen page anomaly. No way in this short amount of time can she really prove herself. Everything you and other Storm fan say about Rogue-Storm that isn't depicted on panel is speculation. It's not wrong, it's not right.

My intention in all actuality, when you thought I got mad at the Thor comment, was to find out right then and there what kind of debate this was.

I figured two outcomes - Outcome 1) Standard debate of feats, Rogue-Storm was very short lived so she wouldn't have many. That sounds interesting in one way or another so I stick around; Outcome 2) Debate of speculation and what-ifs. Storm does hold herself back and Rogue-Storm didn't. That leaves a lot open, but ultimately I wasn't interested in that, I would have gone to play a game or watch a movie or something.

I got outcome 3) Storm fan got real weird and I want to know why. Why am I being portrayed like this insidious character? I guess I know why now.

Originally posted by stormultt
i can give some of them a vouch for it stormfront, because rogue-storm hasnt appeared in decades lol and she never got off her feet but i think it is a prologue of what is to come with her and what she can do n much much more thats y i still excite about the subject of her power.

Yes, this is what I'm getting at. She really only started winding up, we can't say how far she can throw yet because she stopped.

first of all storm is very sane compared to the people known as umm who were those women again..??? OH! scarlet witch, dark phoenix, polaris..storm keeps her composure from becoming rogue-storm and lets not forget rogue-storm wasnt even her full potent which does infact leave ALOT open..

I still wouldn't want to hang out with her like that. She'd break all my stuff.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Pretty much, she lacks feats that suggest infinite power and stuff. Not running out of power for 30 minutes or 5 hours doesn't suggest anything near that imo.

what lack of feat is present? because as far as i know. myself and storm multt havent stated anything outrageous?

Originally posted by stormfront
either your brain is useless or your just ignorant to the fact that i said dont try me.. your statement is attempt at trying me. now i put you on blast.

first off. im far from an idiot.. you on the other hand fall short of the ability to comprehend, thus leading you to being a shallow comic book fan.

now. your are right about one thing. you are unfit to keep up with me in this sort of debate.

you cant even name anything that i said that was not fact. all that you do is constantly say how a character shouldnt be able to do this. well shouldnt<<<<<<<< has and can.

leave me alone. you need to be banned

Whoa really felt that 'blast'...rolleyes1...let's have another.

A 'shallow comic book fan'? LOL...please. You don't know me, but you think you do. Why?

Anyway, as for the rest of your gibberish...kindly point out when/where I constantly said anything about what a character shouldn't do. You're clearly confused. Understandable...afterall, you seem to think Storm is a cosmic-level character because she can draw power from a star and die.

Originally posted by stormultt
You know what...nvm i see you dont know anything but anyways, you need to just stfu because if i insult you i bet u gon take ya lil narrow butt sumwhere and tell either give the reasons u think apoc will beat her or gtfo its that simple i dont want any drama up in this thread and for your information(which i doubt you have any) i gave my reasons and facts!!! emphasis on FACTS! little boy now you can get along like all the rest or leave and not cause a mess! its up to you..
Wait a sec...you're a girl?? Would have never guessed.

Anyway...'get along or leave?' Who are you to give me an ultimatum? Last I checked you didn't own the thread...or the forum for that matter.

But I'll play your little game, anyway...it might be fun.

Let's review your so-called 'facts'.

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My goodness, I can't seem to find any. Where are they?

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I have reviewed this thread and can't find any facts...but I do see a lot of opinion, conjecture, and basic wishful thinking. You clearly aren't basing your opinions on any sort of fact...but rather an over-reliance on hyperbole (ie. the words 'unlimited power'😉 and guesswork coming from you and your little classmate stormfront, without any real fact to back it up.

Not to mention I've seen some very immature and unladylike behaviour from yourself. 😱

Basically, every accolade you've given Storm, every bit of speculation on her powerset has never been shown on panel, yet you state it so matter-of-factly like it has.

BTW, the whole argument of 'we've never seen the full extent of Rogue-Storm's power' can work both ways. We've never seen the full extent of Apoc's power, either...and we have more reason to believe his upper limits are far greater than hers. Simply based on his powerset, durability, and feats.

You like to draw a parallel between Rogue-Storm's supposed potential, and the actual on-panel power shown by the Dark Phoenix, yet base it on absolutely NOTHING except guesswork. You're basically speculating that a blood-lusted Storm is on par with the Dark Phoenix. Where's the proof? A blood-lusted Storm wouldn't even be on par with a low-level Herald...which is probably the minimum level of power one would have to achieve in order to defeat Apocalypse straight up in the 616-universe.

Pathetic is not a toe in the water to describe your arguments in this thread.

Originally posted by stormfront
what lack of feat is present? because as far as i know. myself and storm multt havent stated anything outrageous?

Claiming her power is near infinite is not enough, she would have to prove that by going on for a long time. She'll have to defeat upper tier characters with ease or with the advantage, she has to prove more durable and resistant to things that would've killed her before because I believe that a bullet to the brain would kill this Storm, not saying that would be easy but if she were to stand there and let someone shoot her in the head then she'll go down. Show some more examples of how infinite her powers could be.

as stormultt said. i dont think she was there full yet. the narrator said near infinite. when i said she said thats when things got confusing and everyone strted saying things about infinite, leading me to continue on the path of infinite power.

rouge storm and dark phoenix are comparable.

no one continued with rouge storm so she got no play. near infinit power is where rouge storm is/was

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Claiming her power is near infinite is not enough, she would have to prove that by going on for a long time. She'll have to defeat upper tier characters with ease or with the advantage, she has to prove more durable and resistant to things that would've killed her before because I believe that a bullet to the brain would kill this Storm, not saying that would be easy but if she were to stand there and let someone shoot her in the head then she'll go down. Show some more examples of how infinite her powers could be.

we never said anything about storm defeating a top tire opponent. the only this about infinit i meant to ponder onwas that she said it. you dont go by what she said in the book so there is out difference.

Originally posted by stormfront
as stormultt said. i dont think she was there full yet. the narrator said near infinite. when i said she said thats when things got confusing and everyone strted saying things about infinite, leading me to continue on the path of infinite power.

rouge storm and dark phoenix are comparable.

no one continued with rouge storm so she got no play. near infinit power is where rouge storm is/was

Thats the thing, it ended too soon before we could really judge where she was at.

Originally posted by stormfront
we never said anything about storm defeating a top tire opponent. the only this about infinit i meant to ponder onwas that she said it. you dont go by what she said in the book so there is out difference.

I'm saying that she needed to defeat someone of that caliber to establish exactly what kind of threat she is. Near infinite power doesn't always mean you win. Cain supposedly has no limit on his strength and so does Hulk yet they lose often.

Originally posted by stormfront
rouge storm and dark phoenix are comparable.
How?

Dark Phoenix was causing stars to supernova, and was classified as a universal threat.

Storm did exactly what? What on-panel proof can you possibly provide to make such an assertion?

What I'm trying to say is that she needed more feats to be taken more seriously as a better threat and more powerful.

We know 8th day Cain is shown as being stronger than regular Cain because of what he did. The guy manhandled Thor with ease, fought the Exemplars, his fight with Stonecutter shook the very earth itself. We know Trion Juggernaut is above both of them because Cain not only grew in size but he also punched through dimensional walls.

Storm doesn't have the weapon. She controls the weather yes. Lighting will have no affect on him or hurt him and he also used actual lighting in his weakened state being as a conductor. The power she possess generally isn't a good style to beat Apocalypse.

Apocalypse actually does bitchslap her.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I love that shot of him. Can't wait to see what goes down next.

Or WHO!

People, stop trolling and bashing. Thanks.

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😖hifty:

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
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😖hifty:

That's the worst dialogue I've read in recent memory.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
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😖hifty:

Got some quality writing there! 😄

Originally posted by Lord S
How?

Dark Phoenix was causing stars to supernova, and was classified as a universal threat.

Storm did exactly what? What [b]on-panel proof can you possibly provide to make such an assertion? [/B]

you say that as is dark pheonix didnt start off having near infinit power.

dark pheonix consumed a star. storm(not rouge storm) used the powers of millions of stars and worlds.. that is not to mention that she only showed that portions of what she could do with stars and worlds.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
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😖hifty:

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