Rogue-storm vs Apocalypse

In real world science Its accepted the upper atmosphere has an energy intake of ~174.000 Gigawatts/second.

In comparison Humans on Earth use a combined average of 15.000 Gigawatts a year.

That's a lot of Power to ignore.

I think bias is at work here. Poc can use an external power source in Celestial Teleport Tech, But Storm is prohibited from using an external power source [within her powerset/element] where even a fraction of its output is sufficient to vaporize Apocalypse -shields or no shields.

facepalm

i don't doubt how versatile and potentially deadly storm is or could be, frankly it's besides the point.

the storm exhibited (that will be in this fight) wasn't too concerned with agility or a physical confrontation, she was just cracking off bolts and high winds. not a problem for apocalypse.

when he gets larger, his already formidable armour should get thicker geometrically, and at a size of several stories, he should be able to tank one good lightning bolt to get within striking distance. and that's being generous.

assuming he's in range (apocalypse can extend his arms to huge lengths without having to get close to his opponent, but whatever), he just has to form a dome over the not-so-swift storm. everyone knows that storm is a major claustrophobe and unfortunately this storm is from the 70's so whatever mental training she might of developed to counter it is not present yet. so once she realizes she's encapsulated, that's when the anxiety and hyperventilation starts. then the screeching and lashing out, further eating up her oxygen supply. and as ill posted before, poccy could just end it by finishing her within the enclosure.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i don't doubt how versatile and potentially deadly storm is or could be, frankly it's besides the point.

the storm exhibited (that will be in this fight) wasn't too concerned with agility or a physical confrontation, she was just cracking off bolts and high winds. not a problem for apocalypse.

when he gets larger, his already formidable armour should get thicker geometrically, and at a size of several stories, he should be able to tank one good lightning bolt to get within striking distance. and that's being generous.

assuming he's in range (apocalypse can extend his arms to huge lengths without having to get close to his opponent, but whatever), he just has to form a dome over the not-so-swift storm. everyone knows that storm is a major claustrophobe and unfortunately this storm is from the 70's so whatever mental training she might of developed to counter it is not present yet. so once she realizes she's encapsulated, that's when the anxiety and hyperventilation starts. then the screeching and lashing out, further eating up her oxygen supply. and as ill posted before, poccy could just end it by finishing her within the enclosure.

nnow thats a good point.

He said that on the first page. Just in not so many words.

Originally posted by psycho gundam

the storm exhibited (that will be in this fight) wasn't too concerned with agility or a physical confrontation, she was just cracking off bolts and high winds. not a problem for apocalypse.

when he gets larger, his already formidable armour should get thicker geometrically, and at a size of several stories, he should be able to tank one good lightning bolt to get within striking distance. and that's being generous.

assuming he's in range (apocalypse can extend his arms to huge lengths without having to get close to his opponent, but whatever), he just has to form a dome over the not-so-swift storm. everyone knows that storm is a major claustrophobe.

once she realizes she's encapsulated, that's when the anxiety and hyperventilation starts. then the screeching and lashing out, further eating up her oxygen supply. and as ill posted before, poccy could just end it by finishing her within the enclosure.

Quite how Nur would achieve this at high altitude is unclear and requires suspension of disbelief. At that height Jet winds are active. The scenario presented in which Poc stretches out to an immobile aibourne target requires suspension of disbelief.

Apocalypse will hasten burnout by increasing his mass. His vessels max out faster with extended exertion.

The Atmosphere is Storms Parlour where Apocalypse is the Fly. One Big Trap capable of putting him down.

When accessing her powers Storm is immunised from them.
It is well The High Lord keep his distance, The Windrider can conjure a circuit where energy being intercepted by the gasses ozone/helium/hydrogen Over the Two hemispheres is funnelled at the speed of light into a confined field w/wo her as a focal point. In 60 seconds Storm can harness the power of a 2.5 gigaton bomb. [Hiroshima was 0.000018gigatons]

The longer the fight the Stronger The Storm.

Dude, he battled High Evolutionary in a dogfight flying and morphing in space...

facepalm

My brain...

Originally posted by shiv
It is well The High Lord keep his distance, The Windrider can conjure a circuit where energy being intercepted by the gasses ozone/helium/hydrogen Over the Two hemispheres is funnelled at the speed of light into a confined field w/wo her as a focal point. In 60 seconds Storm can harness the power of a 2.5 gigaton bomb. [Hiroshima was 0.000018gigatons]

You wouldn't happen to be friends and/or relatives with h1a8?

Originally posted by shiv
Apocalypse will hasten burnout by increasing his mass.

😐 That has never happened.

Originally posted by shiv
In real world science Its accepted the upper atmosphere has an energy intake of ~174.000 Gigawatts/second.

Real world science 😆

Originally posted by CATMANEXE
she's powerful. powerful is common. she doesnt actually have any tools in her disposal that can hurt Apocalypse. Big Blue Lips (not my ex) grows big (hngg), makes one hand a nice big shield. The bad plot twist that didnt last past one book hits him with what she's got, he laughs, grabs her with a giant hydralic claw.
crunch.

It will go down like in Nightmare on Elm Street

Storm: Please, God...

Apoc: (shows off his claw) THIS... is God.

😛

Originally posted by shiv
Quite how Nur would achieve this at high altitude is unclear and requires suspension of disbelief. At that height Jet winds are active. The scenario presented in which Poc stretches out to an immobile aibourne target requires suspension of disbelief.

Apocalypse will hasten burnout by increasing his mass. His vessels max out faster with extended exertion.

The Atmosphere is Storms Parlour where Apocalypse is the Fly. One Big Trap capable of putting him down.

When accessing her powers Storm is immunised from them.
It is well The High Lord keep his distance, The Windrider can conjure a circuit where energy being intercepted by the gasses ozone/helium/hydrogen Over the Two hemispheres is funnelled at the speed of light into a confined field w/wo her as a focal point. In 60 seconds Storm can harness the power of a 2.5 gigaton bomb. [Hiroshima was 0.000018gigatons]

The longer the fight the Stronger The Storm.

but really, that won't be needed since a teenage colossus got preeety close to your homegirl, and he much less powerful than he is now.

apocalypse would waltz through the same attack.

Apocalypse can't be intangible forever.

Energy fields hinder psionics. Example battery powered psionic dampeners widely used accross Marvel Earth. Electric Storms In Particular hinder Tech based Teleportation.

The Poc is screwed.

Originally posted by shiv
Apocalypse can't be intangible forever.

Energy fields hinder psionics. Example battery powered psionic dampeners widely used accross Marvel Earth. Electric Storms In Particular hinder Tech based Teleportation.

The Poc is screwed.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Dude, he battled High Evolutionary in a dogfight flying and morphing in space...

facepalm

My brain...

apples and oranges chum.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Man, Storm should of been there when the Celestials stomped all over Earth. Granted, Apocalypse is using a watered down version of their stuff but still, she could of prevented the whole thing, no?

In some cases dialogue can be effective

facepalm

Lol guys, c`mon now if you disagree just tell why...its a debate ya know...

Apocalypse's full control of his atomic structure negates the effects of a majority of Storm's abilities, particularly temperature variance, and his ability to morph into different forms of machinery, like a giant semiconductor, for example, as well as his ability to absorb and redirect energy sources, even life force, as displayed when he absorbed Cyclops's optic blasts with an open palm, and then proceeded to extract Cyclops's own 'essence' with the same gesture, lends to the fact that using energy attacks against him, like lightning, even of great magitude, would be futile.

On the other hand, Storm still suffers from human frailty, even in her 'enhanced' form, and impalement, containment, suffocation, shooting, and crushing her are simple direct attacks Apoc could use without even delving into all of the other more exotic options he has. He could just grow really big, teleport above her, and propel himself downward to crush her into the ground. Or just crush her in the palm of his hand. There's no way for her to survive a physical engagement with him, and most of her arsenal would only prove to be an annoyance to him at best.

^ exactly, storm is still "human" at the end of the day, just as vulnerable to a stray bullet as any of us.

Originally posted by shiv
Apocalypse can't be intangible forever.

Energy fields hinder psionics. Example battery powered psionic dampeners widely used accross Marvel Earth. Electric Storms In Particular hinder Tech based Teleportation.

The Poc is screwed.

he gains mass and density by drawing matter extradimensionally, most likely he shunts his atoms to the same spot to reduce his density. there's no "time limit" for that ability, nor any of the other forms he changes into with his atomic control. once he's in a particular shape/density, he pretty much stays that way until he consciously wills it to change.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Apocalypse's full control of his atomic structure negates the effects of a majority of Storm's abilities, particularly temperature variance, and his ability to morph into different forms of machinery, like a giant semiconductor, for example, as well as his ability to absorb and redirect energy sources, even life force, as displayed when he absorbed Cyclops's optic blasts with an open palm, and then proceeded to extract Cyclops's own 'essence' with the same gesture, lends to the fact that using energy attacks against him, like lightning, even of great magitude, would be futile.

On the other hand, Storm still suffers from human frailty, even in her 'enhanced' form, and impalement, containment, suffocation, shooting, and crushing her are simple direct attacks Apoc could use without even delving into all of the other more exotic options he has. He could just grow really big, teleport above her, and propel himself downward to crush her into the ground. Or just crush her in the palm of his hand. There's no way for her to survive a physical engagement with him, and most of her arsenal would only prove to be an annoyance to him at best.

QFT.

Originally posted by CATMANEXE
QFT.

boi stop..anyway i jus luv that sumone brought up his run in with the celestials...awesome and wen he comes bac with that tech...it will truely be an awesome battle if he fights phoenix or any cosmic character for that matter

Originally posted by stormultt
boi stop..anyway i jus luv that sumone brought up his run in with the celestials...awesome and wen he comes bac with that tech...it will truely be an awesome battle if he fights phoenix or any cosmic character for that matter

Oh wait, did he have a run in with the celestials? That's not how he originally got his tech though, it was the ship.