Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I just provided proof, see above, that Lestat has super human strength.
And you still keep avoiding the crucial point. To what level is his super-strength at? Press 1/2 ton, 1 ton, Iron Man level, Spider-man level, Hulk level, Superman level, what?
This is around the 10th time I've asked this and you either avoid it or response with a non-answer.
I remember Ultimate Colossus making a statement when they put him in front of that speeding bullet train. Super Strength isn't just a general statement for strong people, there are different levels of strength.
And BTW, you're ignoring the fact that Logan has shown super strength feats in the movie.
And you really think Sabertooth hitting Logan with a tree, put out more force than Juggernaut, who was casually tossing him through a house, and whooping all sorts of ass. And let's not forget he jumped on an armored transport, and nearly destroyed it.
Juggs is clearly stronger than Sabes, if he couldn't knock him out in X-3, it shows that Logan increased his endurance.
And FYI, a wager won't help you here, unless you can prove that he's stronger than Logan, stop arguing the strength issue.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hard to say, but I'd wager it is far greater than Logan's.
Okay, what movie feats/proof do you have that it's "far greater" than Wolverine's super-strength level?
Edit: As I pointed out to you before, someone could just "wager" that Lestat's strength is greater than Ang-Hulk's, because you know, he's a vampire and has super-strength.
Originally posted by RobtardRound and round we go. Lestat, as a vampire, has super human strength, that has been proven. Logan, IMO, does not have super human strength. Just because he hurled two men through the air doesn't mean he has super human strength. As I said, there are a few human movie characters who could have done that.
Okay, what movie feats/proof do you have that it's greater than Wolverine's super-strength level?
And here's a nice little nugget to add. Watch the vid,
At :33, Lestat feeds on Daniel. Then, at :48, Lestat is behind the wheel of Daniel's car. before he fed, he was decayed and rotted. When he gets behind the wheel of the car, he is completely healed. So..............Lestat, provided he has fresh human blood to feed on, has regen capabilities that are close to Logan's. So even IF Logan stabs Lestat (which he won't, he will never even SEE Lestat), Lestat will heal.
I notice you still haven't shown any strength feats for Lestat. And just because Vamps all have general strength, we don't know to what level. Until you prove he has sufficient strength to use it effectively against Logan, just drop it.
And do you really think Logan will sit there and let him bite him? It doesn't matter if he can't see him, once he bites him, his speed advantage is gone. And has he shown that sort of speed in combat? Plus Logan has advanced senses, since Lestat is obviously much stronger than Logan. Logan can sense what Lestat will do before he does it.
RJ,
And you still can't say to what degree his super-strength is at, since that term covers a VERY broad range, so you resort to making BS claims about Wolverine not having super-strength.Your opinion that Wolverine doesn't have some level of super-strength is countered by the fact that it is shown on film, so you're just being ridiculous with that.
Of note, Lestat can move around super fast, yet when the vampires fight they slow down. This was clearly shown when Pitt fought Banderas in the catacombs.
You have yet to prove how Lestat is going to take down Wolverine (punches, and nails won't do) and if he comes in for a grapple/bite attack, he's likely going to get grabbed, over-powered and have something cut off.
So we have a guy who can run around so fast that his opponent can't hit him, yet he's unable to take that opponent down.
Considering that Wolverine if given the chance, ie Lestat being stupid enough to come in close for a grab, could win with one hit, I'd side with Wolverine winning.
Whats with immortals being in threads. I mean the only time iv'e seen wolverine killed was in the comics, was by a blast from a super pwnage sentinel from the future. It vaporized all tissue and left his adamantium skeleton behind. Which seems to be the only way to kill him. And lestat just never seems to die. Most vampire lore tells us that drinking a dead persons blood kills a vamp permanently, especially burning him alive. These both happen to lestat so we can assume hes a very old and powerful vampire. Maybe even the first. As iv'e said in other unkillable vs. unkillable threads..... What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object? Nothing.
Originally posted by omgchosLestat is not the first vampire, not even close.
Whats with immortals being in threads. I mean the only time iv'e seen wolverine killed was in the comics, was by a blast from a super pwnage sentinel from the future. It vaporized all tissue and left his adamantium skeleton behind. Which seems to be the only way to kill him. And lestat just never seems to die. Most vampire lore tells us that drinking a dead persons blood kills a vamp permanently, especially burning him alive. These both happen to lestat so we can assume hes a very old and powerful vampire. Maybe even the first. As iv'e said in other unkillable vs. unkillable threads..... What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object? Nothing.
Originally posted by KingD19It has to be said or implied. The fact that Lestat is a vampire, and the wiki link I provided that states he has super human strength, that's all the evidence you need to acknowledge Lestat has super human strength.
I notice you still haven't shown any strength feats for Lestat. And just because Vamps all have general strength, we don't know to what level. Until you prove he has sufficient strength to use it effectively against Logan, just drop it.And do you really think Logan will sit there and let him bite him? It doesn't matter if he can't see him, once he bites him, his speed advantage is gone. And has he shown that sort of speed in combat? Plus Logan has advanced senses, since Lestat is obviously much stronger than Logan. Logan can sense what Lestat will do before he does it.
Logan will never SEE Lestat. What's so hard to understand there? And yes, Lestat has shown that speed in combat, when he is fighting Claudia and Louis. Pay attention.
Look at this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6BuPmX3P88&feature=PlayList&p=CC6AB299A1A743AC&index=0&playnext=1
See at 4:42 where Louis moves so fast Daniel cannot follow him? he is across the room in a microsecond.
And here, at 3:37:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmexq0_0WPk&feature=related
Watch Lestat moving so fast that even a VAMPIRE cannot follow him, and this was with Lestat severely weakened. Imagine what Lestat at full strength would be like.
WHOA.....Logan has precog? Well **** me, who knew?
I have proven Lestat moves so fast that Logan will never see him.
I have proven Lestat has super human strength.
I have proven that Logan had regen capabilities that are almost as fast as Logan's.
What more do you want?
Originally posted by Robtard
RJ,And you still can't say to what degree his super-strength is at, since that term covers a VERY broad range, so you resort to making BS claims about Wolverine not having super-strength.Your opinion that Wolverine doesn't have some level of super-strength is countered by the fact that it is shown on film, so you're just being ridiculous with that.
Of note, Lestat can move around super fast, yet when the vampires fight they slow down. This was clearly shown when Pitt fought Banderas in the catacombs.
You have yet to prove how Lestat is going to take down Wolverine (punches, and nails won't do) and if he comes in for a grapple/bite attack, he's likely going to get grabbed, over-powered and have something cut off.
So we have a guy who can run around so fast that his opponent can't hit him, yet he's unable to take that opponent down.
Considering that Wolverine if given the chance, ie Lestat being stupid enough to come in close for a grab, could win with one hit, I'd side with Wolverine winning.
Pitt and Armand are of no relevance here, this is about Lestat.
Answer this....When Logan was KO'd in XMen 1, how long was he out?
RJ,
Those vids did not show Lestat fighting at his super-speeds, merely moving in a super-speed and then attacking at regular speeds.
You have yet to prove that Lestat could overpower Wolverine if he goes in for a grab/bite. He'd be giving up is speed advantage once he grabbed Wolverine.
You have yet to prove how Lestat can kill Wolverine.
You're showing speed feats, but not proving that's he's fast in combat. Show his combat speed.
And I never said he didn't have super strength, we just want you to probe what level of strength he has. Something which you either can't comprehend, or are just failing to do.
And not all vampires have strength, most of the vampires in Underworld, and Blade movies had no strength feats to their names, only pivotal or characters important to the story. Since they didn't show any strength feats, we don't say they can toss cars, cuz we didn't see it.
And in X-3, he got wailed on by Juggernaut for how long, and didn't get ko'd?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Pitt and Armand are of no relevance here, this is about Lestat.Answer this....When Logan was KO'd in XMen 1, how long was he out?
Fair enough, Lestat had the same speed and attack feats as those two, Anne Rice vamps can run at super-speeds, but slow down to human-levels when they attack, going by movie feats.
When he flew through the trucks windshield, landed head first on the ice and then skidded a good distance? I think for about 7-10 seconds.