Originally posted by carver9
So you're basically saying spiderman is the weak link.
*shrug*
Originally posted by EnyalusPeter could take Slade. Not on their first encounter but after 2 or 3 fights and he learned who he was messin with I'd say he'd take him as well or even better then Dick on a good day.
In this situation, Wolvie and Spidey are about even to me. Spidey's faster and stronger, but less durable with less training and experience. Kind of a trade off. Spidey would lose to either Slade or Midnighter. Wolvie would lose to Midnighter.*shrug*
Granted I'd assume this would be a first encounter fight, in which case Spidey goes down.
Sidey Sense would be a shakeuper for Midnighter too IMO. I wonder how well his tactical prediction would work against someone with natural danger precognition?
Originally posted by Entity
Peter could take Slade. Not on their first encounter but after 2 or 3 fights and he learned who he was messin with I'd say he'd take him as well or even better then Dick on a good day.
Originally posted by Entity
Sidey Sense would be a shakeuper for Midnighter too IMO. I wonder how well his tactical prediction would work against someone with natural danger precognition?
Originally posted by Enyalus
In this situation, Wolvie and Spidey are about even to me. Spidey's faster and stronger, but less durable with less training and experience. Kind of a trade off. Spidey would lose to either Slade or Midnighter. Wolvie would lose to Midnighter.*shrug*
Wolvie and spiderman speed is debatable, they're in the same ball park.
Midnighter isnt beating wolverine, I dont even know what made you come to the conclussion that he could. Cant say he's a better fight because he doesnt have the feats proving this. Cant say he's faster because wolverine feats out weighs his. I guess you're talking about his healing factor which again doesnt prove that he can take a claw stab from wolvie. So again, how is midnighter beating someone who is just better than him in all categories.
Originally posted by EnyalusPeter's H2H skills are nowhere near Slade's or Dick's, though. And Slade's dealt with Wonder Woman and Batman's speed before, so I don't see the edge in Parker's strength or agility giving him a majority.
Meh...I don't think it works at the level Midnighter's scenario precog works at. Billions of scenarios per second. [/B]
With that kind of power Midnighter should NEVER get hit, got a question, has he ever been hit before? 😕
If so then that mean that the above statement that you just said is hyperbole.
Originally posted by carver9
So again, how is midnighter beating someone who is just better than him in all categories.
Originally posted by carver9
With that kind of power Midnighter should NEVER get hit, got a question, has he ever been hit before? 😕If so then that mean that the above statement that you just said is hyperbole.
Originally posted by EnyalusSlade's hth skills aren't as good as Dick's, he's just physically superior.Peter's H2H skills are nowhere near Slade's or Dick's, though. And Slade's dealt with Wonder Woman and Batman's speed before, so I don't see the edge in Parker's strength or agility giving him a majority.
Meh...I don't think it works at the level Midnighter's scenario precog works at. Billions of scenarios per second. [/B]
Pete can beat him for the majority imo.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Because what you said isn't true?It was also stated that Midnighter was only in danger of being killed one time, ever. And that was when fighting aliens who could process things faster than he could, making his ability useless. The rest of the times, all the other beings he's fought...he apparently was never in any serious danger of being killed. Because of his battle precog.
What in my statement wasnt true because feat wise say different?
That was my question enyalus, my question was if you can predict a person move or plan a billion battle strategies to beat a guy then you shouldnt really get hit but he does. Everything that you're saying about this guy is hyperbole OR theres a way around that power.
Spiderman has a spider sense but gets tagged ALL THE TIME by people much slower than him.
Originally posted by carver9
What in my statement wasnt true because feat wise say different?
You said 'better in all categories.' He's not faster than Midnighter. Might be as fast, but it doesn't matter because of his scenario prediction. Midnighter's also stronger. And he's a very good fighter, as well. His HF is nowhere Wolverine's, that's true. But he's the reach advantage with his staff.
Originally posted by carver9
That was my question enyalus, my question was if you can predict a person move or plan a billion battle strategies to beat a guy then you shouldnt really get hit but he does. Everything that you're saying about this guy is hyperbole OR theres a way around that power.Spiderman has a spider sense but gets tagged ALL THE TIME by people much slower than him.
Okay. So is Spiderman's Spider Sense hyperbole? No. He has it. Obviously. Just like Midnighter has his scenario prediction, and it works as stated.
Originally posted by EnyalusYou said 'better in all categories.' He's not faster than Midnighter. Might be as fast, but it doesn't matter because of his scenario prediction. Midnighter's also stronger. And he's a very good fighter, as well. His HF is nowhere Wolverine's, that's true. But he's the reach advantage with his staff.
Okay. So is Spiderman's Spider Sense hyperbole? No. He has it. Obviously. Just like Midnighter has his scenario prediction, and it works as stated. [/B]
I agree, spiderman has his spider sense just like midnight has his prec but both has limits, fighters. Martial artist tends to circle around prec powers and they tend to do it on a level where they actually make the fight turn in there favor.
By the way, what feat are you using to even make you think that midnighter is stronger?