Rulk vs Silver Surfer

Originally posted by carver9
You do know before that rulk fought a butt load of people also and was still at his prime. No where in that story showed anything proving that surfer was weakened when he went against rulk.

What would proper writing do to a character like rulk, someone who has super speed, unlimited strength, great fighting skills, absorb energy, unlimited source of durability, a person that just dont care about killing and a being that can get more powerful than what he already is.

If he got dropped by surfer, that would be bad writing since he manhandle a thor that IS more powerful than almost ANY surfer in existence.

Originally posted by Xplosive
You do realize that you are acting like a true fanboy, because it's so hard for you to accept to think that Rulk could beat Silver Surfer. And Rulk did take Silver Surfer power and I didn't see any overload on Rulk part, except that he became more powerful.

No I admit he beat Surfer, I have no problem accepting that, but the truth is he beat Surfer when he didn't know how to fully use his powers or anything. Thats like Surfer coming up to Rulk as soon as he transformed for the first time and oneshotting his face in.

What SS would achieve with try to overload Rulk, would only make Rulk more powerful. I didn't see anything to support otherwise, since Rulk took SS cosmic power extremely easily and made himself more powerful. What is scary that he probably has more room within to become even more powerful.

Make him stronger? Rulk doesn't get stronger he only gets hotter as he gets angry. Norrin has telepathy and as you said his overheating was due to emotions. Norrin forces the anger on him until he overheats. Rulk has no evidence to support he is immune to TP or even resistant to it.

Rulk easily did it because Surfer was inexperienced and featless...duh.

Rulk has shown tremendous, enormous physical attributes and I think Silver Surfer wouldn't do shit with trying DNA reconstruction or transmutation on Rulk.

So physical strength and durability affects one's DNA now? Doesn't matter how big or strong you are, you're still vulnerable to it.

I am not ignoring it, but that did happen. And how things are going, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he would beat even the current Silver Surfer. Would you be?

So you think he can beat someone who is vastly faster, more mobile, smarter, has more versatility, can matter and energy manip, transmute, and etc with ease?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You are too much of a fan of rulk to argue with. The fact that you say that he has Unlimited Durability, and Unlimited Strength shows that.

Fan boy doesnt have anything to do with my statements, I'm just not ignoring anything shown on panel like you are. Thats the difference between me and you, if its consistent I accept on panel proof whereas you throw it out the window because you dont like the character.

Originally posted by carver9
You do know before that rulk fought a butt load of people also and was still at his prime. No where in that story showed anything proving that surfer was weakened when he went against rulk.

What would proper writing do to a character like rulk, someone who has super speed, unlimited strength, great fighting skills, absorb energy, unlimited source of durability, a person that just dont care about killing and a being that can get more powerful than what he already is.

If he got dropped by surfer, that would be bad writing since he manhandle a thor that IS more powerful than almost ANY surfer in existence.

Wouldn't unlimited durability means he can't be hurt which has been proved otherwise? I think you're mixing this red goliath with Juggernaut. Rulk's speed has nothing on Surfer's.

Originally posted by carver9
What weakness does rulk have? 😕 I wasnt aware that he had a weakness, now if you're talking about overheated then thats not a weakness, that can be CONTROLLED since its based off of his emotions.

Yeah, it was a featless surfer but it was a surfer that still possessed the power cosmic and a surfer that was whipping terrax ass. Answer this, how could surfer overload a guy that basically took ALL of his powers away from him Rulk absorbed ALL of it, so you're basically saying that surfer is going to overload rulk by dishing out more power than surfer have since, well, rulk absorbed his entire essence.

Durability wise, cain and rulk is kind of hard. Do you think cain could brush off attacks from a more powerful thor?

The difference about rulk really isnt much. Every attempt made towards him has been in vain, nothing has as of yet gotten past his durability; he defeated himself.

Again, destroyer and fury has similar feats but you're downplaying it a because its a hulk type villian.

Emotions can be exploited by telepathy.

Cain took a godblast with no damage done, he took blows from WWH with no pain shown, he has had his entire flesh and organs removed from his body. Cain has never felt pain. Thor rocked the shit out of Rulk when he came back. Rulk even said he would've killed him.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
No I admit he beat Surfer, I have no problem accepting that, but the truth is he beat Surfer when he didn't know how to fully use his powers or anything. Thats like Surfer coming up to Rulk as soon as he transformed for the first time and oneshotting his face in.

Make him stronger? Rulk doesn't get stronger he only gets hotter as he gets angry. Norrin has telepathy and as you said his overheating was due to emotions. Norrin forces the anger on him until he overheats. Rulk has no evidence to support he is immune to TP or even resistant to it.

Rulk easily did it because Surfer was inexperienced and featless...duh.

So physical strength and durability affects one's DNA now? Doesn't matter how big or strong you are, you're still vulnerable to it.

So you think he can beat someone who is vastly faster, more mobile, smarter, has more versatility, can matter and energy manip, transmute, and etc with ease?

The question to all of this that you typed up is, "Is surfer more powerful then all of the beings that rulk one shotted/Whipped ass."

Another question, did this surfer JUST receive the pc that rulk beat. Was this a fresh surfer or a surfer that had the tiime to adjust to his powers. Then another thing, galactus gave surfer the knowledge on how to use the pc, it wasnt something surfer has to explore on his own.

Again, rulk beat a thor that is more power in all categories than surfer with ease. Why would he have a problem with surfer?

facepalm

Originally posted by carver9
Fan boy doesnt have anything to do with my statements, I'm just not ignoring anything shown on panel like you are. Thats the difference between me and you, if its consistent I accept on panel proof whereas you throw it out the window because you dont like the character.

If he had unlimited Durability, Galactus wouldn't have KOed him with one shot.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Wouldn't unlimited durability means he can't be hurt which has been proved otherwise? I think you're mixing this red goliath with Juggernaut. Rulk's speed has nothing on Surfer's.

Emotions can be exploited by telepathy.

Cain took a godblast with no damage done, he took blows from WWH with no pain shown, he has had his entire flesh and organs removed from his body. Cain has never felt pain. Thor rocked the shit out of Rulk when he came back. Rulk even said he would've killed him.

From the way its being shown, his durability is on another level, almost equal to cains.

I know that emotion can be exploited by telepathy but we havent even seen anyone use that against him yet, he might be immune to it.

I know everything that there is to know about cain, he's one of my favorite characters. Rulk is cain but he's just much faster and more brutal. All of what you brought up is pointless, rulk has fought a more powerful thor than the one cain fought and whipped his ass. Rulk fought hulk 3 times and destroyed him. Rulk feats outweighs juggernauts.

I agree, thor did give rulk a run for his money on the second encounter but I'm going to use the same excuse that you used, rulk had just fought hbomb, hulk twice, just got through taking hits from thor himself, and jumped from the moon to the earth effortlessly. It took a toll on his powers and the proof that i have of this is because he whipped hulk ass twice with ease but had a hard time taking him out on there 3rd encounter.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Your statement shows you are a "fan boy". Where was it stated that he has unlimited durability, and strength. If he did, he wouldn't have lost to Hulk.

If he had unlimited Durability, Galactus wouldn't have KOed him with one shot.

Do you think that galactus can ko juggernaut who as well shown that he has unlimited durability (except to magical attacks).

He must have unlimited strength if he's one shotting gods with brute force.

Do you even know how he lost to hulk because hulk sure as hell didnt outfight him?

What was the point of your post?

Originally posted by The Nuul
And besides Batman has prep already in place to take care of his BS. Or he would just Batkick Loeb outta DC if he tries that shit over there.

Someone bump the Rulk vs Thanos thread when Quan signs in. biscuits

Rulk wins.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
So you think he can beat someone who is vastly faster, more mobile, smarter, has more versatility, can matter and energy manip, transmute, and etc with ease?

I didn't say with ease. I said he crushed SS with ease in Hulk 12, not the current one. I said at how things are going, wouldn't be surprised, not even close, if Rulk would beat current SS. I don't know why would anyone be surprised by that.
And the fact is that he did make himself more powerful than Silver Surfer by adding his power. That makes Rulk more powerful being than Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by Mindship
Thoughts...
1. This is how Sentry should probably be portrayed, given his hype.
2. Rulk could probably, Probably break free of a Panther armbar.
3. Love those silver skivvies.

I agree; they do sentry so wrong, with his hype, he should be exactly like this, bust through EVERYONE but his mindset mess that up.

Originally posted by carver9
Do you think that galactus can ko juggernaut who as well shown that he has unlimited durability (except to magical attacks).

He must have unlimited strength if he's one shotting gods with brute force.

Do you even know how he lost to hulk because hulk sure as hell didnt outfight him?

What was the point of your post?

There is a difference between huge amount of strength, and unlimited strength. If he had unlimited strenght, he would have KOed Hulk, or Thor with one punch. However, he didn't have that amount of strength. If he had unlimited Durability(if that's even the correct term), he wouldn't have been defeated/devastated by Galactus attack.

go ahead and make them excuses now!

He doesn't have unlimited durability nor strength and guess what, neither does Living Tribunal.

carver9=Jeph Loeb

Originally posted by Xplosive
He doesn't have unlimited durability nor strength and guess what, neither does Living Tribunal.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
To prove you are bias; that's the reason on my post.

There is a difference between huge amount of strength, and unlimited strength. If he had unlimited strenght, he would have KOed Hulk, or Thor with one punch. However, he didn't have that amount of strength. If he had unlimited Durability(if that's even the correct term), he wouldn't have been defeated/devastated by Galactus attack.

go ahead and make them excuses now!

Didnt you once say that superman prime has unlimited strength? 😕

By the way, classic thor and hulks strength is both stated as incaculable, cant be measured but rulk choked hulk to sleep and on the second encounter, woke him up and once shotted him again.

He toyed around with a more powerful thor. He let thor attack him which thor was going for the killing blows, which lead to rulk just brushing them off. How about you look at the rulk vs thor fight and tell me if you dont see rulk toyiing around with thor. If rulk wasnt toyinig around he would have killed thor when they were on the moon. If he wasnt toying around he would have thrown a punch when they were on earth. If he wasnt toying around he wouldnt have just STOOD there and let thor attack him.

Got a question, destroyer PHYSICALLY almost took down the entire asgardian kingdom killing gods etc... Is that pis

Originally posted by xJLxKing
That can be argued. He is only second to god. I don't see if he doesn't have close to infinite strenght, and durability.

But even LT doesn't have true infinite strength or power.