Originally posted by janus77
people just don't like the character, that's about all it boils down to.Hulk's feats are too high for most peoples liking, the idea that this character who normally goes about running away from the military and/or smashing up mountains is stronger (and more innately powerful) than Gods (Thor et al), flying bricks (Gladiator et al) and assorted monsters (Onslaught, X-Men etc), only makes him that much more unpalateable... he doesn't have a majestic arc like say Surfer, where he's tangled up in the wonders of the universe and looking face to face with creator/destroyer types ... he doesn't bring to life a mythos like Thor does ... he just exists to be annoyingly - incredibly - powerful and without true purpose.
Hulk destroyed technology designed to ward off Celestials, that was dismissed as meaningless.
Hulk contained and then released (without any damage to himself) 2 universes of energy - which in anyother case would be taken to mean enduring a "Big Bang" - but that is totally ignored when talking of his stamina, durability and capacity to take punishment/energy attacks (ie, so and so should "overpower him", such and such an attack would "kill him" ...)I just think the character lacks the kind of purposive stories that drag alot of the more fanatical crowd to comics. you can't really look up to Hulk, he's just a very human man, with Godlike (more in the league of Beyonder than Odin) power ... more afraid of what he could wrought than with bringing the universe to some superior order or defending the order that already exists (Thor and Surfer).
think about it, Beyonder says Hulk's power is like his own, in magnitute (infinite), Galactus can feed off of "The Old Power" and be sustained for a thousand years, yet The Old Power is miniscule in comparison to the power exhibited by a weaker Hulk ...
if you swapped Hulk's high-end feats with say, Thor's, everybody would think Thor was truly a Skyfather... not many would be upset at the ridiculousness of those powers - because they would have a narrative purpose...
Hulk's stories are more psychological than narrative focused... they're about coming to terms with yourself, with your capabilities and desires... in their totality and about the consequences of not doing so, imo.
Hes to inconsistent, beating up watchers, embarrassing Thor then next hes being beat up by smart Hulk.
Just noticed the Beyonder bit, what are you 5? Damn there's stupid and then there's janus stupid.
Originally posted by janus77
depends, he knocked down Uatu with a punch, Thanos blasted Galactus away... neither would actually beat the character they attacked, if they carried on.
Not the point, the fact that he made Watcher bleed and beat the crap out of him yet struggles with Banner-Hulk is bullshit and you should know that.
Originally posted by The Pict
Beyonder warped reality, he could do virtually anything.Hulk is really strong, heals fast and can jump really high.
😐
Beyonder's statement was regarding how powerful the 'creature' was, not regarding how many types of powers he displayed.
I don't see why this should be at all confusing.
Originally posted by Kinkin
Not the point, the fact that he made Watcher bleed and beat the crap out of him yet struggles with Banner-Hulk is bullshit and you should know that.
you know, the personal attacks aren't really speaking too highly of your age or temperament... goes to my point about comics and religious fanatics... they're a vessel for beliefs, it seems.
Originally posted by janus77
yes and that has to do with the magnitude of power or with the variety of power?Beyonder's statement was regarding how powerful the 'creature' was, not regarding how many types of powers he displayed.
I don't see why this should be at all confusing.
You're the one confused, mate. You said Hulk was in Beyonder's league power-wise, above even Odin. That's silly. That would mean he couldn't even be beaten by conventional means. However in his strongest form he was taken out by a few satellite blasts. If you think that's Godlike and unlimited power I think Kinkin is right any your actually under 13.
he punches down Uatu, main picture. he leaps upon Uatu, last panel of second picture. notice that Uatu is not koed or anything such... he has an expression of surprise (which is only natural for someone attacked out of the blue) and his hands are reflexively raised as if he's going to defend himself in the next panel.
Hulk then distracts Rulk and Uatu is ignored for the rest of the scene, as far as I remember.
Re: Question for the forum
Originally posted by carver9
When Despero physically took on the entire jla/jsa and crushed them, why didnt anyone brush it off as pis?When the destroyer physically took down asgard why didnt anyone throw it off as pis?
When mangog killed gods and played with thor like a toy why didnt anyone throw it off as pis?
When doomsday wrecked the jla, took darkseid omega effect and then proceeded in beating the hell out of him, THEN destroyed the jla AGAIN, why didnt anyone throw it off as pis?
Or how about titus physically crushing the jla or Konvikt destroying the jla.
The reason I'm asking this is because rulk has done some amazing things that shouldnt even be questioned due to his strength, speed, and durability but since he's a hulk character people dont like it.
The forum use despero feats as credit but curse loeb out for doing what he's done.
Seems pretty biased if you ask me.
i'll bite! 😛
despero is cool rulk is not
mangog has the power of an entire race (i think..) rulk is just another hulk who is red
doomsday was engineered to be the ultimate killing thingy that can evolve rulk is ugly and red and has no business being that powerful
konvikt's name is cool rulk is just plain stupid
bottom line, rulk is just another hulk type character who was powered by gamma radiation and should at most only be a global threat. just like hulk.
Originally posted by janus77
he punches down Uatu, main picture. he leaps upon Uatu, last panel of second picture. notice that Uatu is not koed or anything such... he has an expression of surprise (which is only natural for someone attacked out of the blue) and his hands are reflexively raised as if he's going to defend himself in the next panel.Hulk then distracts Rulk and Uatu is ignored for the rest of the scene, as far as I remember.
Apparently hes dead.
Either way after the damage done to Watcher not many people should be taking Rulk punches. BS either way.
Originally posted by janus77
he punches down Uatu, main picture. he leaps upon Uatu, last panel of second picture. notice that Uatu is not koed or anything such... he has an expression of surprise (which is only natural for someone attacked out of the blue) and his hands are reflexively raised as if he's going to defend himself in the next panel.Hulk then distracts Rulk and Uatu is ignored for the rest of the scene, as far as I remember.
I'm not saying he gave Utu the whooping of his life or anything. If the Watcher had fought back Rulk would be a smear on the floor IMO.
The point is Rulk has just knocked over a cosmic being while fighting Hulk, after he demolished Abomination and Iron Man and She Hulk but before he humiliated Thor etc etc.
Originally posted by The Pict
You're the one confused, mate. You said Hulk was in Beyonder's league power-wise, above even Odin. That's silly. That would mean he couldn't even be beaten by conventional means. However in his strongest form he was taken out by a few satellite blasts. If you think that's Godlike and unlimited power I think Kinkin is right any your actually under 13.
as to the matter of the satellites... Thor Godblasted Galactus away... Odin <<<< Galactus, shouldn't logically happen, we speculate as to why it did - Galactus was weakened by hunger, over exerted etc etc...
Hulk was fighting to contain himself, to prevent further damage... so the sum effect of his own actions and the satellites is what we see.
further... Satellites are a plot-device, which is something we readily accept in most situations where the unstoppable has to be stopped, for the sake of the story.
again, personal insults and slights are rather unbecoming, too much passion and ferver about such a trivial subject. one meant to be pleasurable and entertaining at that 😐.