Modern Day Miracles

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Modern Day Miracles

Does anyone know of a "Modern Day Miracle"?

I mean the bible is just packed with the suckers and yet in the age of modern man, its my understanding that there has been nothing even bordering on being a "Miracle" in the biblical sense.

Now a few criteria:

1. Has to have been widely recognised as a Miracle.

2. Not refuted scientifically.

3. Non-annecdotal (sorry for spelling).

4. And just for records sake since 1800 onwards.

Web links would help for those of us who haven't got a whole lot of time to be surfing the internet.

Have fun.

Liverpool winning the Champions league.

Originally posted by jaden101
Liverpool winning the Champions league.

Good one. 😆

Originally posted by jaden101
Liverpool winning the Champions league.

More likely than walking on water or rising from the dead.

(But not by much lol)

Nuclear weapons.

A modern day miracle?

Human beings have not destroyed themselves.

Yet.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Nuclear weapons.

Discovered by science, employed by idiots.

Not a Miracle.

Originally posted by Mindship
A modern day miracle?

Human beings have not destroyed themselves.

Yet.

Give Humanity a chance. There is still time.

Originally posted by Beliver
Discovered by science, employed by idiots.

Not a Miracle.

An act of great power that you can't hope to really understand. Close enough to a miracle.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
An act of great power that you can't hope to really understand. Close enough to a miracle.

I take it you failed to read criteria 1.

The big sun shine bomb was designed by man.

At no point is God or a saint involved. Not a Miracle.

Originally posted by Beliver
I take it you failed to read criteria 1.

The big sun shine bomb was designed by man.

At no point is God or a saint involved. Not a Miracle.

No I read the criteria, I think they're bad ones for a modern Miracle.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No I read the criteria, I think they're bad ones for a modern Miracle.

Okay I'll get the crayons out if you really need them.

Has anyone walked on water?

Turned water into wine?

Risen from the dead?

Parted a body of water just by shouting at it?

Is that clear enough or do I have to get the Elmo Explains Miracles book out?

Originally posted by Beliver
Okay I'll get the crayons out if you really need them.

Has anyone walked on water?

Turned water into wine?

Risen from the dead?

Parted a body of water just by shouting at it?

Is that clear enough or do I have to get the Elmo Explains Miracles book out?

I have turned water into wine. I used some grapes along with the water. 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have turned water into wine. I used some grapes along with the water. 😆

But you didn't convert water to wine through sheer force of faith though like the big J supposedly did.

Making your own is just copping out of buying it from the shops.

Originally posted by Beliver
But you didn't convert water to wine through sheer force of faith though like the big J supposedly did.

Making your own is just copping out of buying it from the shops.

No, I put everything together and willed it with a supernatural power. It just took me a lot longer then Jesus.

My point is: Miracles are whatever you want them to be. Magic and supernatural are products of the mind. You cannot restrict products of the mind with the laws of physics or logic.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, I put everything together and willed it with a supernatural power. It just took me a lot longer then Jesus.

My point is: Miracles are whatever you want them to be. Magic and supernatural are products of the mind. You cannot restrict products of the mind with the laws of physics or logic.

Let us say the ground in the middle of Liverpoll FC football ground opened up and Jesus jumped out and started smacking down the non-belivers...thats pretty miraculous.

Some drunken Mexican finding the face of Jesus in a potato is not.

Nothing like the events depicted in the bible have happened again (in any irrefutable way) since the end of times described in the bible.

Originally posted by Beliver
Let us say the ground in the middle of Liverpoll FC football ground opened up and Jesus jumped out and started smacking down the non-belivers...thats pretty miraculous.

Some drunken Mexican finding the face of Jesus in a potato is not.

Nothing like the events depicted in the bible have happened again (in any irrefutable way) since the end of times described in the bible.

However, some Christians on LSD my see Jesus jump out of a football field. To them, this is real; just as real as Jesus on the potato. Sure this is not real to you, but your reality is just as much in your mind as is everyone else.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
However, some Christians on LSD my see Jesus jump out of a football field. To them, this is real; just as real as Jesus on the potato. Sure this is not real to you, but your reality is just as much in your mind as is everyone else.

But your looking at this from the perspective of the individual.

Humanity as a collective has not seen anything that borders on the parting of the Red Sea, or the dead getting up and talking to people or people healing other people by just by touching them on the head (and it not be a scam)

Originally posted by Beliver
But your looking at this from the perspective of the individual.

Humanity as a collective has not seen anything that borders on the parting of the Red Sea, or the dead getting up and talking to people or people healing other people by just by touching them on the head (and it not be a scam)

The collective has never seen anything like that, ever. Miracles are personal by nature, and then become public by story telling.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The collective has never seen anything like that, ever. Miracles are personal by nature, and then become public by story telling.

But they have in the Bible.

Jesus didnt turn the water into wine on his own, and the Red Sea parting had an audience.

I claim there is no such thing as a Miracle.