quan is correct regarding the un by a technicality, dude can recall it whenver he wants and it's power is supposed to be the manifestation of what galactus represents.
but....standard tech as we know it on kmc kinda clashes with the relationship galactus has with the un.
imo, a whole new thread could be made just trying to figure out if it's legal or not. maybe a mod (or mr master) could clear it up.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Completely missed the point, eh? 🙄 Using your 'interpretation' there is no problem.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
However, if we read the actual book, we see Imperiex is the big bang and part of the original big bang. Therefore, yes there is a problem with causality.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And since Galactus himself has said he would need to leave the universe at the end (assuming that is canon), I'm assuming he can't tank the armor shattering.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Can Galactus tank a big bang? IMO, hell nah.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Would there be a causality problem if he erased Imperiex? I have no idea, hence why I'm asking.
Originally posted by psycho gundamI think it has to do with the threat level he faces. He isn't going to whip it out against Odin, but someone like Imperiex or Abraxas I could see him doing so.
quan is correct regarding the un by a technicality, dude can recall it whenver he wants and it's power is supposed to be the manifestation of what galactus represents.but....standard tech as we know it on kmc kinda clashes with the relationship galactus has with the un.
imo, a whole new thread could be made just trying to figure out if it's legal or not. maybe a mod (or mr master) could clear it up.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
I already shut down the imperiex is only the energy he took from the galaxies he destroyed argument before enyalus,people much smarter and who have access to much higher cosmic knowledge than the person who talked about that flat out say imperiex is the very force of entropy and rebirth.
Originally posted by quanchi112that's not really the point, i think standard tech has more to do with how much character X wears/carries/uses/pilots said item(s).
I think it has to do with the threat level he faces. He isn't going to whip it out against Odin, but someone like Imperiex or Abraxas I could see him doing so.
in the case of the un, imo. it's difficult to say since the un is technically a dismembered part of galactus' power/being/representation of sorts, but at the same time he seldom uses it or carries it with him.
Originally posted by psycho gundamI disagree as I have already proved he can use it when he wants to. The point is the un is usually only used against the bigger threats. This I think qualifies as a bigger threat.
that's not really the point, i think standard tech has more to do with how much character X wears/carries/uses/pilots said item(s).in the case of the un, imo. it's difficult to say since the un is technically a dismembered part of galactus' power/being/representation of sorts, but at the same time he seldom uses it or carries it with him.
We can argue for Thor using the godblast based on the situation as well. We don't negate abilities and powers just because they are rarely used.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestIt beat Abraxas so it served it's purpose. The ig can defeat it imo, but that's neither here nor there with respect to Imperiex Prime.
Hey Quan, in case you forgot, the UN has failed before too. It resealed Abraxas, it didn't kill him. Magus blocked it with 4 gems of the IG by redirecting the beams. And I'm reasonably sure there's at least one more.
Originally posted by quanchi112He only used it once against Korvac... and that was only because that was the easiest way to destroy him... from many galaxies away. And he only did it because he robbed him, not because of who it was.
I disagree as I have already proved he can use it when he wants to. The point is the un is usually only used against the bigger threats. This I think qualifies as a bigger threat.
You'd think he'd have used it against Beyonder, Agamotto, etc.
Plus, Galactus' entire Worldship being used has more basis than the UN... as he actually recalled the thing from a place he couldn't see, and from a place half a universe away... and he always uses the damn thing.
Should this also be in the thread?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hey Quan, in case you forgot, the UN has failed before too. It resealed Abraxas, it didn't kill him. Magus blocked it with 4 gems of the IG by redirecting the beams. And I'm reasonably sure there's at least one more.
Quasar also managed to "survive" getting nullified.
Originally posted by AllanklesThat's all I need on top of the times the omega beams have failed.
Once. Against Mxy.
Originally posted by CharmanderIt is rarely used in comics, but the un was used against Abraxas and was attempted against the ig. My point is made and is very credible. My scan proves it is standard gear and a part of his overall power.
He only used it once against Korvac... and that was only because that was the easiest way to destroy him... from many galaxies away. And he only did it because he robbed him, not because of who it was.
Korvac is by no means a big threat to Galactus...You'd think he'd have used it against Beyonder, Agamotto, etc.
Plus, Galactus' entire Worldship being used has more basis than the UN... as he actually recalled the thing from a place he couldn't see, and from a place half a universe away... and he always uses the damn thing.
Should this also be in the thread?