Megaman vs Kain.

Started by Acrosurge6 pages

Originally posted by Burning thought
How can you be sure this is a teleport? or a teleport from his own power, it could be Doctor wily or a portal of some kind. Is it stated anywhere to be a teleport?

It may not be anything of canon and may actually just be a typical graphic of an old game to remove a character from the screen. He seems to just squash and then flies off the screen, he does not actual dematerialise or port.

It is called 'teleporting' within the game as well as in Capcom's official sourcebooks. Here's a version from 16 bit mega man 7:

00;10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t9gTpR3Rko&feature=related

And another from 32 bit Mega Man 8:

00;20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tchKCjxBQP8&feature=PlayList&p=C0AB43595085F37C&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=16

Hm his teleportation seems a bit obvious and clumsy, its like a stream that goes up and then falls again, Kain can even see where Megaman is coming from and could easily adjust his plans accordingly although its a hard teleport to gauge simply because I dont know the amount of time between him flying off the screen and appearing on the next level or the distance between them.

Although this would allow Kain to keep a teleport or two ahead of Megaman, and even better, Kain has the element of surprise because he can teleport to a location and appear without being detected while Megaman is obvious and not as quick.

Not if Kain's time stopped.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Not if Kain's time stopped.
Kain stops time too.

Ill think on that once ive seen it, Acrosurge claims its over the screen which in itself can only be around 6 meters in each direction, they would have to both start literally on top of eachther and Kain can still mist or teleport to escape, regardless of how long it takes for him to appear from teleportation he vanishes within less than a second, which would be beyond Megamans reaction anyway.

can't megaman teleport too?

Well as discussed above, the teleport itself its obvious and easy to spot, since he does not actual disapear, he flies up into the air then down again...still glowing bright blue.

Kain on the other hand could be anywhere, Megaman would have to look all around him every time Kain teleports to find him.

Oh, see, I thought you were questioning Mega Man's ability to follow Kain should he choose to run.

Mega Man doesn't use his teleporting in combat. On the other hand, foes who teleport in combat do not place him at a disadvantage, since he's beaten plenty of them. If Kain tries to surprise him that way, he's likely to take a Buster blast to the face or a Mega Uppercut.

What is Kain's best speed feat? Mega Man has tagged both Quick Man and Turbo Man in combat, the former of which clocks out at multiple mach speeds (the Perfect Memories Sourcebook states Mach 15, IIRC).

What is Kain's best durability feat? Mega Man's armor can withstand heat of 5,000 degrees C (or concentrated heat of 12,000 degrees C), and electrical discharges of 500,000 volts. That's just for starters, I've got much more.

What is Kain's best strength feat? I've got Mega Man's all ready for you, if you want it.

Megaman beats Kain in all 3 of those easily without a doubt or a debate required. Infact judging by that information he would better rely on his speed rather than teleportation.

The best powers Kain should rely on to win this match are his teleportation advantages, and powers to stop Megaman in his tracks such as time, if he succeeds in this then I dont know how he would destroy megaman.

Megakain > Kainman

Megamans only bonus will be his speed, if he can canonically go mach 15 then Kains only bet is to mist/teleport as far away as he can so he can get enough distance to use his Repel shield (takes 2 seconds to cast) and time slow, then he can teleport next to Megaman.

Time slow < Time stop.

aren't they just the same except one slows time down.

Slowing time down isn't gonna help if the other guy can stop it completely.

It is if the other guy takes 3 seconds to stop time when the first only takes one second to slow time.

Which, if it were the case, would help Kain for all of 2 seconds. 😐

No because Megaman would then be slowed in time, thus how long it usually takes for him to do it, react etc would be irrelvent. Then all Kain has to do is incapaciate Megaman with hte spell of the same name which completly freezes him in time, he would do the same strategy to Ganon/dorf and most other characters

You missed the "if that were the case"

Lol@ Kain landng incapacitate on someone who's mach 15, even with time slowed.

Why exactly? he will not be Mach 15 with time slowed, in fact judging by the looks of the time slow, it decreases the time of opponents by at least 75% if not more, and Ascourge has said Megaman Tagged the guy who can go mach 15, I dont know the circumstances of that yet tbh, mainly because it could have been the characters own fault of this, or it could have been Megamans intellect or tactics, not necessarily Megaman actually moving at that speed. Either way, Kain will not be hit by time stop, and Kain could just keep fireing Incapacitate blasts until he hits Megaman.

YouTube video

Above is megamans time stop, he starts charging at 0:07 and releases time stop at 0:10 3 seconds is longer than:

On the other hand:

YouTube video

Kains time reaver takes 1 second, Kain casts it at 6:32 and its in effect slightly before 6:33

in fact looking at it again, the factor of the time slow is even more than I first thought, the opponent is barely moving meaning he is likely slowed easily around the 80/90% mark, its pretty much as good as a time stop tbh, Kains time aura also lasts longer than Megamans time stop.

Originally posted by Burning thought

in fact looking at it again, the factor of the time slow is even more than I first thought, the opponent is barely moving meaning he is likely slowed easily around the 80/90% mark, its pretty much as good as a time stop tbh, Kains time aura also lasts longer than Megamans time stop.

I'd be hard pressed to call that anything more than 50%.