Originally posted by Philosophía
Superman>Thor
Kyle ~ Surfer
Orion > Beta Ray Bill
Wonder Woman > Gladiator
Martian Manhunter > NovaFirestorm helps those who are having problems.
Lmao, you're not ****ing putting Current Thor below Superman? I can understand how some people might think that Superman is slightly stronger than classic Thor, or vice verse. However, current Thor has the Odinforce and is naturally much stronger.
How you can claim that Superman would still win, is just, it's just plain ridiculous. An advantage in speed makes up for vast inferiority in all the other areas? Not a ****ing chance. It's time to take off the DC bias cloak and try to see things a bit more clearly. I like Superman as much as the next guy, but he's not greater than the rest of the members in the high herald category.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Amazo is in another league from SS.
Okay, so because Amazo is stronger than the Surfer, the Surfer won't be able to do something as simple as produce enough red sun energy to rob Superman of his powers?
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Lmao, you're not ****ing putting Current Thor below Superman? I can understand how some people might think that Superman is slightly stronger than classic Thor, or vice verse. However, current Thor has the Odinforce and is naturally much stronger.How you can claim that Superman would still win, is just, it's just plain ridiculous. An advantage in speed makes up for vast inferiority in all the other areas? Not a ****ing chance. It's time to take off the DC bias cloak and try to see things a bit more clearly. I like Superman as much as the next guy, but he's not greater than the rest of the members in the high herald category.
I'm ****ing putting him at that level because he ****ing is at that level son, lmao !111
Ok. Now. Thor simply hasn't shown anything 'Odin' or 'skyfather level' feat-wise to make me think that he is at that level, pure and simple. He got his ass kicked by Ymir. The Bor fight looked like anything except a fight between Skyfathers, and the fact that he even called the Avengers to help him (and Bor not killing them with an afterthought) further reinforces the ideea that it was nothing of that kind. JMS seems to go by the 'I like to have my cake and eat it too' ideea. On one hand, he depicts Thor as nothing close to a skyfather, but on the other hand he has retarded comments like 'If I didn't have the Odinforce I'd be one-shotted omg!!11'. Sort of 'I can't write him as a skyfather, but let me throw a few comments to make it seem like he is'. And Beta Ray Bill is arguably portrayed as a peer to him aswell, even after the 'wowzerz' Odin-power upgrade. And I'm not going to bring Rulk, because that has become too overused.
In short, when it comes to feats, Thor doesn't have anything on Superman. From adversaries they have faced (I could use Infinity Man being manhandled by Superman to further enforce my arguement) to pure feats.
