The Runner vs Mangog

I'm curious not just in terms of raw power who could beat who, but also how much the Runner's "charm" might play into taking the fight (the hate?) out of Mangog.

mangog reflexes was ridiculously fast. i give it to him; one good punch would mess runner up

Class 100 level punch + Lightspeed + level force I think take it.

Originally posted by golem370
Class 100 level punch + Lightspeed + level force I think take it.

Who has class 100 strength because the runner never showed that he was in that tere.

Well look what Flash can do with speed and a punch and I am sure Runner is stronger then Flash.

Originally posted by golem370
Well look what Flash can do with speed and a punch and I am sure Runner is stronger then Flash.

I agree but with mangogs durability, I think flash punch would be nothing but a tickle to him.

Again, mangog speed was ridiculous and he could get ahold of runner. Runner have no way of winning this battle besides bfr whereas mangog could literally just rip runner in half.

Originally posted by carver9
Who has class 100 strength because the runner never showed that he was in that tere.

Originally posted by darthgoober
He overpowered classic Surfer...

Of course he overpowered surfer, he used his charm against him throughout the entire fight. Surfer even brought up that he was under some kind of effect during his confrontation with runner.

Firelord has overpowered surfer on numerous of occasions but is still listed as a 70 tonner.

Originally posted by carver9
Of course he overpowered surfer, he used his charm against him throughout the entire fight. Surfer even brought up that he was under some kind of effect during his confrontation with runner.

Firelord has overpowered surfer on numerous of occasions but is still listed as a 70 tonner.

Firelord's NEVER physically overpowered Surfer. He's got a win to his credit sure, but he never overpowered Surfer the way the Runner did. And Firelord can amp his strength with the Power Cosmic just like all of Galactus's heralds can, a 70 ton rating is way off for someone who's gone toe to toe with guys like Hercules and Thor.

The Runner takes this.

So Runner's Likeability Force would be useless against Mangog?

Originally posted by Mindship
So Runner's Likeability Force would be useless against Mangog?

Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't think so. Mangog runs off of hate. If he's unable to do that...

IMO, the runner would bfr himself after getting bored fighting mangog for a week non-stop.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
IMO, the runner would bfr himself after getting bored fighting mangog for a week non-stop.

why not?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
why not?

Though it was non-canon, I believe Surfer beat Mangog via the "sheer nobility" of his soul. Does non-canon mean this could happen but just never officially did, or that it just flat-out couldn't happen at all (ie, such a tactic would never defeat Mangog). If the former, then I would think Runner's charm would have some effect on Mangog, even if (for the sake of argument) physically one could not defeat the other.

Runner's not too fast for Mangog, but Mangog won't drop Runner with a single punch.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Why so?

if i knew what it would take to ko or even hurt the runner, then i would give the majority to mangog most likely.