North Korea preparing to launch 2 more missiles, U.S. warns

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North Korea preparing to launch 2 more missiles, U.S. warns

SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea pushed forward with preparations to test-fire more missiles in the wake of last week's nuclear test as leader Kim Jong Il moved to anoint his third son as heir to the world's first communist dynasty, reports and experts said Tuesday.

At least four missiles were spotted being readied at North Korean launch pads: a long-range missile on the west coast near China and three to four medium-range missiles on the east coast. U.S. military officials confirmed the preparations of a Taepodong-2 capable of striking the U.S., and the Yonhap news agency cited a lawmaker briefed by defense officials for the east coast launch.

North Korea was also strengthening its defenses and conducting amphibious assault exercises along its western shore — possible preparations for skirmishes at sea, reports said. South Korea deployed a guided-missile, high-speed boat to the area to stamp out any provocations, the navy said.

As tensions continued to escalate — with U.N. ambassadors discussing a new Security Council resolution in response to the nuclear test — the regime reportedly began paving the way for Kim's 26-year-old son, Jong Un, to eventually take over as leader of the nation of 24 million people.

A succession announcement went out after the May 25 underground nuclear test to top Workers' Party, military and government officials, South Korea's Dong-a Ilbo and Hankook Ilbo newspapers said Tuesday, and the North was already hailing the son as "our Commander Kim" in a new song being taught to the people, the Dong-a Ilbo said.

South Korea's National Intelligence Service said it cannot confirm the reports.

Analysts say the recent saber rattling is part of a campaign to build unity and support for the eventual successor to 67-year-old Kim Jong Il, who reportedly suffered a stroke last August.

After disappearing from the public eye for weeks last fall, Kim made his first state appearance in months at the delayed opening session of the country's new legislature April 12, grayer and thinner and limping slightly.

Kim was believed to want to name a successor by 2012 — the centenary of the birth of his father, North Korea founder Kim Il Sung — and the regime undertook a massive campaign last year to prepare the country for the 100th anniversary celebrations.

The April 5 launch of what North Korea claimed was a successful bid to send a communications satellite into space was believed part of the campaign, to show off the country's scientific advancements. But in an abrupt shift in plans, the regime stepped up the pace and in early May launched a "150-day battle" urging North Koreans to work harder to build up the country's economy.

"Before 2012, North Korea must convince the army and the public that Jong Un is the best successor," said Atsuhito Isozaki, assistant professor of North Korean politics at Tokyo's private Keio University. "To pave the way for Jong Un's leadership, it is highly likely that North Korea will turn recent nuclear and missile tests into his achievements."

Analyst Cheong Seong-chang of the Sejong Institute, a South Korean security think tank, noted that the "politically driven" campaign is set to end in early October, about the time of the anniversary of the founding of the ruling Workers' Party. He said North Korea could hold a national convention then — its first in nearly 30 years — to formally announce the successor.

Cheong noted that in the 1970s, Kim Il Sung, known as the "Great Leader," arranged for his son to take credit for a "70-day battle" before he was tapped in 1974 as his father's successor. The succession decision was made public at a 1980 convention, and Kim Jong Il — the "Dear Leader" — formally assumed leadership upon his father's death in 1994.

"Since Kim had a stroke last year, North Korea appears to be in a hurry in naming his successor," Isozaki said.

Kim has three sons, and many believe the youngest has the best chance of succeeding the authoritarian leader, possibly with the backing and guidance of his uncle, Jang Song Thaek, a member of the all-powerful National Defense Commission who has strong military and political connections.

The eldest son, Jong Nam, 38, had long been considered the favorite to succeed his father — until he was caught trying to enter Japan on a fake passport in 2001. He reportedly told Japanese officials he wanted to visit Tokyo Disneyland.

Kim considers the middle son, Jong Chol, too effeminate for the job, according to a Japanese sushi chef who said he served Kim Jong Il for many years.

Little is known about Jong Un, the second son of former dancer Ko Yong Hi, who died in 2004.

He studied at the International School of Berne in Switzerland in the 1990s under the pseudonym Pak Chol, learning to speak English, German and French, the Swiss weekly news magazine L'Hebdo reported earlier this year, citing classmates and school officials.

A classmate recalled him as shy and introverted but an avid skier and basketball player who was a big fan of the NBA star Michael Jordan. The sushi chef, who goes by the pen name Kenji Fujimoto, said in a 2003 memoir that Jong Un looks and acts just like his father and is the leader's favorite.

South Korean lawmaker Park Jie-won, a member of the intelligence committee, told a radio show Tuesday that the spy agency briefed lawmakers that the regime already is "pledging its allegiance to Kim Jong Un," according to an transcript provided by his office.

The missile and nuclear tests also are part of a campaign to grab Washington's attention at a time when Kim has two other pressing issues that must be resolved before his health worsens: establishing security by normalizing relations with the U.S. and strengthening the economy, Cheong said.

A long-range missile test could be timed to coincide with the June 16 summit in Washington between South Korean President Lee Myung-bak and President Barack Obama, analysts said.

Satellite images indicate the North has transported a long-range missile to the new Dongchang-ni facility near China, a Yonhap report said. A U.S. official confirmed that the missile was moved by train and said it could be more than a week to liftoff. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the issue involved intelligence.

The Chosun Ilbo newspaper also said the North may have manufactured up to four more long-range missiles.

On the east coast, vehicles mounted with at least three mobile launchers were spotted at Anbyon, Yonhap said Tuesday, citing an unnamed government official.

Complicating the situation is Thursday's trial in Pyongyang of two American journalists, Laura Ling and Euna Lee, accused of entering the country illegally and engaging in "hostile acts."

North Korea also has custody of a South Korean worker detained at a joint industrial complex at the border. He has been transferred to Pyongyang, Yonhap said Tuesday.

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All I have to say on this matter is this.

If our President or any of our future Presidents for that matter truly believes that we could just pound North Korea into submission than they are living a dream.

Those who live in America, including myself, can never allow for our government to take a preemptive attack on North Korea, or we can pretty much kiss our asses goodbye.

Why do I believe this? Who in their right mind really believes that after the Korean War (Where China backed North Korea entirely against the United States), that the Chinese would not back them up in any future conflict against us? It wasn't that long ago that the Korean war took place, and the basic reason that we were unable to invade and conquer North Korea during the Korean war was directly related to the fact that China had taken their side in the conflict. It is solid fact.

So....if we are stupid enough as a nation to get back into the 2003 mentality that we have a swift victory against North Korea, we are only kidding ourselves. Not only is the war in Iraq still underway, but the war in Afghanistan is also underway. Still. To this day. And for God knows how much longer. North Korea, on the other hand, is not Iraq. And it is not Afghanistan. And it just so happens to have the other toughest ally out there in the World today, which is indeed Red China.

If you ask me, and you can ask me a thousand times, who will China side with in a war against North Korea, it is not the United States, I will tell you every time that it will be North Korea. I don't care what anybody says. Those two bodies of land have existed right next to eachother for much much much much longer than our Nation America has ever even been in existence. Not only are they both Asian countries.

As a little historical reminder, during the last time the United States and the United Nations attempted to go to war with North Korea, the UN armies pressed north of the 38th parallel with the intent to take over North Korea, and the disorganized North Korean army was unable to stop them. A few UN units actually pressed north to the Amnok (Yalu) River, the border between Communist China and Korea. HOWEVER.... The Chinese warned that they would not accept the conquest of North Korea by the UN and massed for a counter attack. Though less well armed than the UN armies, the Chinese armies were much larger and quickly overwhelmed the UN forces. Some 40,000 U.S. troops were cut off by the advance and evacuated from near Wonsan in mid-December 1950. Seoul was retaken by the Chinese as they pushed south.

Things will not be any different this time around only 59 years later. So unless we are actually attacked by North Korea in any way shape or form, we simply can not allow for our government to bring us into a war that will no doubt in my mind lead us all into the most destructive war the World has ever seen. World War 3.

And besides all that, if anyone on this planet believes that the United States can successfully fight and win (because winning is absolutely important) a war against Iraq, Afghanistan, AND North Korea and China all at the same time, they are also living in a dream.

The other wars which are under way are the main reason why nothing will happen, and N.Korea knows this.

Although I don´t think the west´s technological advantage can be ignored. They might be content with a few surgical strikes to stop the nuclear program and to take the missiles out.

China won´t get involved or its a nuclear war, and that pretty much messes up everyones lives.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
China won´t get involved or its a nuclear war, and that pretty much messes up everyones lives.

Except the reptilians.

Oh no warez!!

As long as I'm in no danger I don't care what happens.

Originally posted by YodaIam
Oh no warez!!

As long as I'm in no danger I don't care what happens.

No, you mean

"As long as danger, I am not in, care what happens, I don't."

You sorry excuse for a Yoda.

Lazy I a...screw it. I'm just lazy.

China won't get involved because it's far more interested in its newly found capitalist society than it is about honouring some 50 year old alliance with a backwards country like North Korea.

Originally posted by NuclearWinter
All I have to say on this matter is this.

Glad you kept it concise and to the point.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Except the reptilians.

And the mutant zombies which will come about because of it.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
And the mutant zombies which will come about because of it.

And the goddam radscorpions too.

It is really going to suck, if you live in Alaska.

except that the US has a tactical weapon called an E-bomb that causes no direct casualties and renders any enemy weapons requiring an electronic guiding system such as a missile completely useless.

emp?

Originally posted by Darth Jello
except that the US has a tactical weapon called an E-bomb that causes no direct casualties and renders any enemy weapons requiring an electronic guiding system such as a missile completely useless.

I think anyone with an A-Bomb can have that awesome effect...but I heard it's not like a cool slow moving blueish wall of energy that passes through humans, but destroying computers in an exploding and awesome manner, which would be really, really cool.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think anyone with an A-Bomb can have that awesome effect...but I heard it's not like a cool slow moving blueish wall of energy that passes through humans, but destroying computers in an exploding and awesome manner, which would be really, really cool.

Atomic bombs have a lot of better uses than making an EMP. They also have a lot of nasty side effects.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Atomic bombs have a lot of better uses than making an EMP. They also have a lot of nasty side effects.

Maybe, I don't tend to be well versed in classified high tech military weaponry, I'm just saying that, the "well the US has those" may not be that cool considering that all the...what...7 places with Nuclear Bombs theoretically have the same capabilities.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
except that the US has a tactical weapon called an E-bomb that causes no direct casualties and renders any enemy weapons requiring an electronic guiding system such as a missile completely useless.

Which is also why, when a Russian Mig-25 foxbat defected to Japan during the cold war, American scientists laughed at the primitive analogue, valve based technology until the Russian pilot pointed out that during an nuclear attack the 1st thing that happens is a high altitude detonation to knock out electronic equipment and that valve based non electronic systems would still function where as electronic only systems would be ****ed. This is why all cruise missles now have a non electronic back up.

Electromagnetic bombs damage and disable valve-based analogue electronics too. Not to the degree of electric motors, transistors and integrated circuits but they do disable them.

This war is going to be so cool.