Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Wait why shouldn't people move to a place that gives them what they want?
Oh if there is one, then I'd agree, they probably should.
But the "If you don't like it, why don't you **** off", usually refers to only one issue, and though there may be a place that does it different on this issue, that doesn't mean there's a perfect place, and obviously changing the government and society is an option that one can and should possibly pursue, especially in the US, a country founded on civil disobedience.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Right, thats why there are so many illegal firearms floating around.
the problem is it is harder for your law abiding citizen to buy a gun then it is for a violent criminal to get one.
besides most of the guns come from other parts of the world. you guys really think that warehouses and pallets of guns are stolen from gun factories?
Originally posted by Wild ShadowI don't know about all that, I am no expert in the field, not even a novice.
the problem is it is harder for your law abiding citizen to buy a gun then it is for a violent criminal to get one.besides most of the guns come from other parts of the world. you guys really think that warehouses and pallets of guns are stolen from gun factories?
i was in iraq in 06/07 we found a cache of weapons over 5000, we had to catalog them all get serial numbers model ect ect... most of them were german, chinese and russian weapon systems a few scattered ones were american in origin. we destroyed all but the ak47's that were functional and had serial numbers if they didnt we assigned one to them. any who by order of a high ranking government official of a certain powerful country we were ordered to arm the iraqi army with those weapons a few months later we found a few hundred of the same weapons inside a couple of insurgence homes that were being used to store them. we were later ordered not to talk about it which really pissed me off since most of my officers/Nco's thought it was a bad idea to begin with.
not sure if it ever made it to the news probably not.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i was in iraq in 06/07 we found a cache of weapons over 5000, we had to catalog them all get serial numbers model ect ect... most of them were german, chinese and russian weapon systems a few scattered ones were american in origin. we destroyed all but the ak47's that were functional and had serial numbers if they didnt we assigned one to them. any who by order of a high ranking government official of a certain powerful country we were ordered to arm the iraqi army with those weapons a few months later we found a few hundred of the same weapons inside a couple of insurgence homes that were being used to store them. we were later ordered not to talk about it which really pissed me off since most of my officers/Nco's thought it was a bad idea to begin with.not sure if it ever made it to the news probably not.
I'm almost certain it came up in the news or either in some book I read about Iraq.
I feel like an ass cause I can't find it and I would have to scramble through some stuff but it sounded like something I heard before.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
besides most of the guns come from other parts of the world. you guys really think that warehouses and pallets of guns are stolen from gun factories?
actually, there is a problem with the smuggling of American made assault weapons into mexico right now...
really interesting story about the AKs!
Originally posted by inimalist
actually, there is a problem with the smuggling of American made assault weapons into mexico right now...really interesting story about the AKs!
i know that their are many american assault rifles that are smuggled into mexico, but they are mostly bought legally through gun shows ect ect.. and then they are transported to mexico where they mark up the prize.
hell i know a smuggler or used to be one till his wife turned him in and the border patrol was on the look out for him and his vehicle when he was crossing. all i can say dont piss off women or cheat on them or try to take your kids from her in the divorce cause they will screw you over. man my uncle was pissed when they confiscated all his electronics and torn the insides out to pull weapons hidden inside tv's vcrs.. ect ect.. poor guy.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i know that their are many american assault rifles that are smuggled into mexico, but they are mostly bought legally through gun shows ect ect.. and then they are transported to mexico where they mark up the prize.hell i know a smuggler or used to be one till his wife turned him in and the border patrol was on the look out for him and his vehicle when he was crossing. all i can say dont piss off women or cheat on them or try to take your kids from her in the divorce cause they will screw you over. man my uncle was pissed when they confiscated all his electronics and torn the insides out to pull weapons hidden inside tv's vcrs.. ect ect.. poor guy.
Self-defensive and hunting. Protecting the Republic.
How are you going to protect the republic, especially from its own government which someone mentioned. They have a slight military advantage. Some citizen with a few pistols and rifles and them with apaches's, F16's and SEAL's
You've obviously never been to Mars then
Well, isn't that nice coming from a citizen of "Mars." 😛
There are many responsible gun owners.
But it only takes 1 irresponsible gun owner to cause the death of some folk
Originally posted by Bicnarok
How are you going to protect the republic, especially from its own government which someone mentioned. They have a slight military advantage. Some citizen with a few pistols and rifles and them with apaches's, F16's and SEAL's
The military can't be used against the citizens of America.
Well, they aren't supposed to be used.
You've obviously never been to Mars then
No one or anything has ever been to Mars.
Not even a space rover. 😉
But it only takes 1 irresponsible gun owner to cause the death of some folk
Even with Germany's stringent gun laws there was a recent shooting.
Criminals will always find a way to get their hands on weapons.
Originally posted by The Scribe
The military can't be used against the citizens of America.
Well, they aren't supposed to be used.
only if they declare martial law best bet is to wait it out till some american soldiers decide to disobey their commands.
you would definitely be safe from the marines since our standing orders are to be used only over seas and "not" on american soil and i am sure many would not obey an order to harm civilians.
Originally posted by Bardock42
But potentially they could.
If they did that would be unconstitutional and make them traitors.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
only if they declare martial law best bet is to wait it out till some american soldiers decide to disobey their commands.you would definitely be safe from the marines since our standing orders are to be used only over seas and "not" on american soil and i am sure many would not obey an order to harm civilians.
That would be their best bet, not to follow orders.