Ganondorf's Warcraft gauntlet

Started by Q'Anilia4 pages

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
If Ganon is allowed to summon minions this becomes spite, imho.

@Q, Lich King thread's been done, Ganon won it, unless you'd like to re-open it.

What makes the minions turn this into spite?

I just looked it up. Over after 22 posts and no one even brought a good case for the Lich King. That's more a walkover than an actual victory 😛

kain wins. 😛

😛

He wouldn't pass first. Might pass second. Fail at third, fourth. Possibly could clear fifth. Despite restrictions of sixth, he'd be stomped there.

RPG amped WC characters are not exactly the weakest incarnation.

Where did you read that Kel'Thuzad can freeze time? O_o

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Where did you read that Kel'Thuzad can freeze time? O_o

It's a power he's listed to have. It's to no surprise that he has it, given his level of power. I'm more surprised that he knows Wish and Soul Link than Freeze Time.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
It's a power he's listed to have. It's to no surprise that he has it, given his level of power. I'm more surprised that he knows Wish and Soul Link than Freeze Time.

Listed where? I have 3 RPG books, KT is in 2 of them, but neither lists the ability to stop/freeze time.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Listed where? I have 3 RPG books, KT is in 2 of them, but neither lists the ability to stop/freeze time.

Manual of Monsters. Authored by Metzen, I should add.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Manual of Monsters. Authored by Metzen, I should add.

Whoops, my bad! It's indeed in "Manual of Monsters". I looked manually this time. Adobe Reader's search function failed me again 🙁

Manual of Monsters and other RPG books makes one realise just how powerful Azeroth magicians are. It gives a better view of the powers, while the novels focuse more on the personality, origin and plot.

What you have to make sure of when you read the RPG books is when something is an actual ability that character would have or if its a gameplay ability thats choosable by the players.

Originally posted by Burning thought
What you have to make sure of when you read the RPG books is when something is an actual ability that character would have or if its a gameplay ability thats choosable by the players.

I guess I'm jumping to conclusions when I read:

Kel'Thuzad > Combat > Spells > Stop Time.

My misstake 😐

Originally posted by Burning thought
What you have to make sure of when you read the RPG books is when something is an actual ability that character would have or if its a gameplay ability thats choosable by the players.

Those RPG books confuse the hell out of me.

I imagine it could be rather confusing. I take it you haven't read the RPG rules? That would explain some of it.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Those RPG books confuse the hell out of me.

Well yes, a lot of the information in the books are misinterpreted, a lot of the book actually points out what the players can choose to use in their RP's and what each ability does, so not necesserily every ability listed under a character in one of the RP books would be canon to them, e.g. a lot of characters of Sorcerer level A, can use Sorcerer ability B but that does not make it canon to the character. Thats what I find out of it, the most accurate places of lore are the storyline sections, otherwise the gameplay is just that....

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
I imagine it could be rather confusing. I take it you haven't read the RPG rules? That would explain some of it.

It's confusing because it gives a lot of abilities to characters that never used them, some of these abilities I haven't even heard of. "Prismatic Sphere"? Would somebody mind telling me what the hell is Prismatic Sphere?

Furthermore, the 'Challenge Ratings'. I assumed it meant how challenging(e.g strong) the character is, but it places guys like Kel'Thuzad and Mannoroth above the Aspects. What a load of bullshit.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Well yes, a lot of the information in the books are misinterpreted, a lot of the book actually points out what the players can choose to use in their RP's and what each ability does, so not necesserily every ability listed under a character in one of the RP books would be canon to them, e.g. a lot of characters of Sorcerer level A, can use Sorcerer ability B but that does not make it canon to the character. Thats what I find out of it, the most accurate places of lore are the storyline sections, otherwise the gameplay is just that....

Naw, it's not like that. Each character has their abilities preset, so you can't really choose them.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
It's confusing because it gives a lot of abilities to characters that never used them, some of these abilities I haven't even heard of. "Prismatic Sphere"? Would somebody mind telling me what the hell is Prismatic Sphere?

Furthermore, the 'Challenge Ratings'. I assumed it meant how challenging(e.g strong) the character is, but it places guys like Kel'Thuzad and Mannoroth above the Aspects. What a load of bullshit.

The Prismatic Sphere is a powerful sphere that grant you resistance to magic and the natural elements.

The Challenge Rating works in the manner that the characters has different level of difficulty. The higher challenge rating, the tougher they are to beat. This is a rating under particular conditions.
The Aspects are more or less pacifists, making it easier to battle them. Kel'Thuzad and Mannoroth are cruel heralds that serve greater lords that slay those that fail them, thus' they are more dangerous.

The rating does not actually say how strong the character is. Just how challenging it will be going up against it in the roleplay.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
The Prismatic Sphere is a powerful sphere that grant you resistance to magic and the natural elements.

The Challenge Rating works in the manner that the characters has different level of difficulty. The higher challenge rating, the tougher they are to beat. This is a rating under particular conditions.
The Aspects are more or less pacifists, making it easier to battle them. Kel'Thuzad and Mannoroth are cruel heralds that serve greater lords that slay those that fail them, thus' they are more dangerous.

The rating does not actually say how strong the character is. Just how challenging it will be going up against it in the roleplay.

OK. Malorne has a Challange Rating of 61 and Archimonde of 50, AND Malorne is as a pacifist as it gets. Shouldn't he totally outclass Archimonde?

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
OK. Malorne has a Challange Rating of 61 and Archimonde of 50, AND Malorne is as a pacifist as it gets. Shouldn't he totally outclass Archimonde?

The rating is strange, I can't deny that. I only explain what it mean. Besides, Malorne in the War of the Ancients didn't use a single spell. So you can't judge his level of power from that. All War of the Ancients proved, was that Archimonde had the physical strength and durability to best Malorne in a clash of "fists"

Maybe its one of those things you take with a pinch of salt, isnt Elunes 91? higher than any Pantheon member....