Project Natal (xbox 36o)

How can a company greed be excessive?

They're creating new hardware so people can buy there products. It's a smart business plan.

Milo is every pedophile's dream 😑

funny how some will like try out Milo just to see if they can break him 😆

...btw: I love my controller, I like motion sensing technology, but I LOVE MY CONTROLLER

call me small minded, but the only cool use I see is to interact with the screen alá Minority Report... everything else.... 😬

Originally posted by Smasandian
How can a company greed be excessive?

They're creating new hardware so people can buy there products. It's a smart business plan.

I mean in terms of forcing dev's to charge for there dlc really, they make more then enough money it seems pointless to force people like Valve and Epic to charge for content, especially when the content is only around 3 maps or so and even then 800 points is in most cases a rather steep price.

Well, considering it's Microsoft's server space that's being used...

And I've never heard anything about Epic wanting to release DLC for free but being made to charge. And Valve...what DLC have they offered? All I know about was the Left 4 Dead maps and survivor mode. Which, unless something changed recently, is free.

Also, say whatever you want about them "being unable to making a working console" or being greedy or whatnot, but the fact stands that Microsoft made a console that has sold very well and has the best games of the generation. When it was discovered the system had problems, and how widespread they were initially, they could have just blown everyone off. Instead, they extended warranties, refunded repair fees charged before the warranty was extended, and redesigned the system multiple times to try and cut down the likelihood of problems popping up. They didn't need to do all of that.

Anyway, on topic, I can't stand motion sensing controls and I highly, highly doubt that Natal will look or work even a fraction as well in reality as it did at E3.

Yeah, MS is a business. People who love video games sometimes forgot about that.

They want to get a piece of the casual crowd that the Wii has. If Project Natal works, and is advertised correctly, I can see this thing selling crazy well.

If not then the technology behind it would be probably be used in something different.

Originally posted by Peach
Well, considering it's Microsoft's server space that's being used...

And I've never heard anything about Epic wanting to release DLC for free but being made to charge. And Valve...what DLC have they offered? All I know about was the Left 4 Dead maps and survivor mode. Which, unless something changed recently, is free.

Also, say whatever you want about them "being unable to making a working console" or being greedy or whatnot, but the fact stands that Microsoft made a console that has sold very well and has the best games of the generation. When it was discovered the system had problems, and how widespread they were initially, they could have just blown everyone off. Instead, they extended warranties, refunded repair fees charged before the warranty was extended, and redesigned the system multiple times to try and cut down the likelihood of problems popping up. They didn't need to do all of that.

Anyway, on topic, I can't stand motion sensing controls and I highly, highly doubt that Natal will look or work even a fraction as well in reality as it did at E3.

Epic were forced to charge for Gears of War 1 content, Valve are being made to charge for TF2 content upon release.

I'm not complaining about the console (I never did,) can't really mine's never had the RROD.

The only thing I complain about is that point I made previous.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Project Natal (pronounced "nuh-tall"😉 is the code name for a "controller-free gaming and entertainment experience" by Microsoft for the Xbox 360 video game platform. Based on an add-on peripheral for the Xbox 360 console, Project Natal enables users to control and interact with the Xbox 360 without the need to touch a game controller, through gestures, spoken commands, or presented objects and images. The project is aimed at broadening the Xbox 360's audience beyond its typically hardcore base.

wikipedia.org

I saw this device being demo'd on E3 on xbox live. It looks promising for the non-hardcore fans. It's looking like a Wii killer. The games seemed pretty simple.

I don't think i'll be getting it. it's a cool concept but it seems to simple. Unless they come out with something catering to my need which is hardcore, which isn't going to happen with this device seemingly, i'll pass.

I won't rule nothing till I see more...but it sure looks like something to keep an eye out.

Originally posted by Smasandian
How can a company greed be excessive?

They're creating new hardware so people can buy there products. It's a smart business plan.

I think it's excessive greed when a company forces their audience to pay additional fee's to unlock content that is already on the game disc. That is just disgusting.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I think it's excessive greed when a company forces their audience to pay additional fee's to unlock content that is already on the game disc. That is just disgusting.

That is a real problem.

Can we punch Milo in the face?

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I think it's excessive greed when a company forces their audience to pay additional fee's to unlock content that is already on the game disc. That is just disgusting.

True, that's not good.

But what does that have to do with MS decision to create a motion based system for the 360?

Natal looked cool...then I realized its probably going to suck.

All I know is that I'm going to wait and see how this turns out. Maybe buy it after 2+ years from release....buying an xbox360 when it first came out made me realize being an early adopter(is that what its called?) sucks =\

Journalists have tried it out and they say it's pretty damn sweet and works really well for a prototype.

They played Burnout Natal edition (a game reworked for Natal for testing) and it worked. Just like the video.

Is Natal going to be in stores or on the Xbox Live market?

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Is Natal going to be in stores or on the Xbox Live market?

It's a physical product it's a bar picking up motion sensing something so big couldn't go on the market place and how would you create strings of data that recognise motion anyway? You would need specialised components.

Originally posted by Smasandian
True, that's not good.

But what does that have to do with MS decision to create a motion based system for the 360?

😂 it doesnt have anything to do with MS. I was just randomly answering the the question you asked...,"how can a companies greed be excessive" out of context 😉

Also, MS is pretty goddamn excessive with charging for goofy dumbass pictures, themes and cheap ass arcade games, but i guess that just makes the knuckleheads who buy the crap the dumbasses eh

I do have to give MS some props though. They have been giving back a little bit to their live audience lately, but not nearly as much as they could.

Natal is going to be a cheap gimmick though, mark my words. I'm curious if i'll have to eat them next year lol

I find it funny when people call it a cheap gimmick.

They said that about the Wii, look how much sales it's doing. So can't really be called a cheap gimmick.

If Project Natal works, and I think it will this is a huge thing for them.

Too me it kinda seems like a sad attempt to head in the direction that nintendo went.. it may work though. If it does then im going to ps3, As it will pretty much be the last hardcore console left. This will make microsoft more money though.

PS3 is doing the same thing as the Wii with their motion controller with Eye Toy, or Playstation Eye.

How does Project Natal lessen Xbox 360's hardcore value? It's an add-on to the system, 360 still has hardcore developers. It won't change a thing. Just added revenue for MS.

hating on Natal is a cool kid thing; so that's what everyone's going to do. everyone's a skeptic. its the same reason everyone hates america. 😄 *shrug*

if it works it'll be badass beyond belief. ill fork over money for it.