Yep. That's exactly what happened
heh, i knew it. man, you're getting old...🙁
SF isn't better because it's more popular, IMO it's more popular because it's better.
that's cool with me, man. you're entitled to an opinion. as long as you'er basing it on something and not blindly jumping the bandwagon, i'm good.
[Same way SNK took that stuff from AOF (the camera zooming & shit) & put it to better use in a waaaaaay better game like SS. SS also lives on & what a surprise, it also became waaaaay more popular than lame old AOF.[/quote]
well, we already went over this and this is the bit where i tried to explain to you something by using bladerunner as an example. AoF was ahead of its time...amongst other things.
SS & SF are great series & they gained great popularity. There haven't really been any great AOF games. They had a couple of great features, but the gameplay was mediocre & the characters sucked so said features went wasted until SS and other great games used them better.
i remember the "John Crawly is a guile ripoff because he fights in front of a helicopter" thing which made me laugh my ass off. stupid frankie yagami. so the character, with a whole new moveset, different style altogether is a ripoff because his stage is a military base....gotta love that kinda logic eh?
john would've made an appearance hadn't misguided sf fanboyism had him grated by people for no reason. to date, he gets flamed for being a ripoff when he isn't one. its proof of how rampant SF fanboyism really has been over the years and how many games it's buried despite it's mediocre offering.............heck, its fits your description of Triple H perfectly 😂
ryo, robert, yuri, takuma, eiji, king, mr. big, lee all of 'em have made appearances in KoF. from FF1-3, terry, andy, joe, mai, geese, kim, mary, ryuji, billy made it. the rest didn't. don't mean the cast is weak, mate.
Remember how lame it was in AOF whenever you got hit w/a jumpkick you fell? Notice how they got rid of that shit in SNKs better games? AOF was never that great.
dude, they took that out in AoF2.
I'd really like you to find one person who says that SF is better than AOF just 'cuz it's original. SF is better 'cuz it is better & has better characters & was just more fun.
don't act like it's a fact mane. it's a matter of opinion. i respect your opinion but i can't help point out how you've said in the past that you never played the game (iirc, apologies if not). how you're making these claims then is beyond me. you didn't even know all those things till i pointed them out to you and didn't know that they took out the falling thing in the next game. now it could be your memory of course (jiji!)
Having a few cool elements doesn't make a game great. It's gotta be a great mix. SS & SF & KOF(not the new one) have that mix. FF had that mix w/MOTW but they released it on a soon-to-fail platform(Dreamcast). AOF NEVER had that mix &that's what sent it to the scrap heap, not people going "It's not original so I ain't buying it. SF is better because it's teh foist!!!!!!!!"(unless you have some REAL evidence suggesting otherwise).
i can point out that people still believe john's a guile ripoff.
i can point that people think akuma came first then takuma
i can point that people think sakura came first then yuri
i can point that people don't know that Sf and AoF were developed by the same people, are inspired from the same things and that far from being a ryu spoof, Ryo is actually a clear homage to SuperSaiyan Goku, complete with
1) orange gi
2) black shirt underneeth
3) same wrist and feet guards
4) spikey blonde hair
and a few influences from Kenshiro e.g. zanrestuken etc.
as for proving that cats actually believe that SF is better cuz it came first, why don't you answer how you've decided that SF is better when you haven't played AoF games?
SF came b4 SS & KOF but they somehow still made dolo. I blame AOF's failure on AOF, nothing else. Sometimes the McD effect applies. Sometimes it don't. This is one of those times when it don't
it does, imo. SF's the bigger name and Capcom's a bigger company. no one is denying that and hence, more money is put into promoting and selling it. AoF never got the kind of exposure SF garnered. if you think i'm saying SF is better than AoF simply because of the McD effect, well no, it isn't and there are lots of factors. the main reasons, according to me are (in no particular order):
-ignorance
-McD effect
-overzealous fanboyism
-being ahead of its time
-not getting enough exposure
-being launched by a smaller company
-people are gullible dumbphucks who believe anything if you say it enough times (batman is complex, jessica alba is hot, britney spears can sing, titanic was the best movie etc. etc.)
But your "evidence" doesn't really apply here so it's just whining, not evidence
giving an example of things being ahead of their time. how is that whining? you still got the vodka in your system 😂
You are. Maybe ya don't intend to tho
well, don't you think people are generally lazy dumbphucks? i think the root of our argument lies here.
If that was all you were saying I'd be saying it right along w/you. You're basically saying "people are dumbphucks in general & that's why SF made it & AOF didn't" You see where I'm going w/this now, mane?
now i get your point. here' my McD effect elaborated, maybe this way you'll know what i'm saying better:
[quote]if my McDonald's effect doesn't apply to you then why are you getting bent out of shape? its not even meant to be something set in stone. there are exceptions to all rules. there are people out there who genuinely like Superman because they see someone who is capable of being god stay humble enough to be a man. There are women who look at Wonder Woman as the epitome of the feminist ideal. there are people who look at Batman as the pinnacle of human will and intellect. and they firmly believe this.
My McDonald comment is not aimed at these people but at those who like them simply because they are the first of their kind (esp supers and wondy) or because they are bigger names than others. same way, as there are people who say SF is better than AoF because it came first and go to mcdonalds without trying Hardees or burger king or popeyes or charley's. there are people who are simply doing what they're doing because they're running after a bigger slogan and jumping the bandwagon.
It's kinda like you're making excuses for AOFailure.
i'm not making excuses. i'm saying there are a coupla reasons why it failed and some of them were due to no fault of its own but rotten luck (being ahead of its time etc).
All we know is SF made it & AOF didn't. There's no evidence proving why or why not. History would suggest that AOF failed 'cuz it was garbage w/a few shreds of coolness &that SF succeded 'cuz it was greatness that they added AOFs few shreds of coolness to. Same w/SS & any other series that took the cool things about AOF but used them waay better.
you never answer my hitchcock question?
and phuck history. i just finished reading Slaughterhouse5 and there's an excerp in it that talks about how Americans got to know about the Dresden bombing 20 years after it was carried out and that it killed more people than the hiroshima bombing.
not saying anything on the political front, but you do realize what my stand on history is now don't you?
~Sado