Conan the Barbarian (2011)

Originally posted by quanchi112
The effects and what not seem outdated but still enjoyable. Arnold had classic lines and there's a nostalgic factor for me. Just look at the original star wars films and compare it to the prequels it looks vastly outdated but still are great movies. Look past the effects and with conan at the time it was a wonderful tale of revenge and gladiatorial good times to be had by all.

Originally posted by Impediment
Conan the Barbarian is timeless.

Conan the Destroyer was pure shit.

fixed.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
If I want to see Arnold at his best or a nostalgic factor of his, I'll preferably rewatch Terminator 2 or something. His Conan movie doesn't hold a candle to plenty of the other movies he's been in IMO.

And then started killing us in the 90's with shit like Eraser. "You're luggage."

T2 was made in 91.

Arnold had 3 maybe 4 good movies in the 90's. Less than half from the 80's. He's the 80's action-star.

Terminator 3 was one he did all right in too, though I guess that wouldn't count for the current topic since it was in 2003, but was still a better movie than Terminator Salvation IMO (Kristanna Loken was kind of a plus too). I'll be a bit disappointed if the next Terminator is one he doesn't have a prominent role in either. 😬

Originally posted by Robtard
Slow? We get a battle 10 minutes into it and we stay entertained until the end. The non-battle scenes all pretty much are either character development related or plot-driven.

Tedious? See above.

Outdated? Was made in 1982 and the effects for the time are pretty good. But it is an almost 20 yer old fantasy flick.

I think what I had difficulty watching was really James Earl Jones & his henchmen & their ridiculous haircuts....the whole religious sect story line was what I found tedious to watch...after having seen the movie about 4-5 times already.

The one problem I had with the original though it's minor is the manner in which Conan dispatched the villain. Once he overcame self doubt and his words he just killed him. I expected a fight.

The MAIN problem I had with the original was how dumbwitted & clumsy Arnie played Conan out to be.

Having read all the Conan novels, the guy wasn't just muscle bound, he was quick, agile, cunning & intelligent enough to rise to king.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
The MAIN problem I had with the original was how dumbwitted & clumsy Arnie played Conan out to be.

Having read all the Conan novels, the guy wasn't just muscle bound, he was quick, agile, cunning & intelligent enough to rise to king.

I liked how Milius used Arnold in Conan1: no talk, just action. And yes, he wasn't too clever, but it felt honest enough. Can't say that about our new pumped up version.

I read one book with lots of short stories on Conan by Robert Howard. And he certainly wasn't the talkative type. I think Milius just emphasised that bit.

I'd like to see a movie with an older Conan, starring Ahnold. Conan the Usurper.... with his empire beginning to crumble. At least that would give some depth and challenge to the character and the actor.

Originally posted by queeq
I liked how Milius used Arnold in Conan1: no talk, just action. And yes, he wasn't too clever, but it felt honest enough. Can't say that about our new pumped up version.

I read one book with lots of short stories on Conan by Robert Howard. And he certainly wasn't the talkative type. I think Milius just emphasised that bit.

I'd like to see a movie with an older Conan, starring Ahnold. Conan the Usurper.... with his empire beginning to crumble. At least that would give some depth and challenge to the character and the actor.

Yah, with Shia Lebouf as the spunky young kid who the torch is being passed to. Sounds like a hit!

Originally posted by queeq
I liked how Milius used Arnold in Conan1: no talk, just action. And yes, he wasn't too clever, but it felt honest enough. Can't say that about our new pumped up version.

Yes Arnold playing Conan felt honest enough...considering at the time, there was little choice of other actors to play the part.

But at least with Momoa, he did look intelligent & cunning enough to do the Robert E. Howard's novels justice.
Unfortunately he just didn't have the screen presence compared to Arnold.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Yah, with Shia Lebouf as the spunky young kid who the torch is being passed to. Sounds like a hit!

Shia as Red Sonya...now that would be a hit! 😉

Originally posted by Esau Cairn

But at least with Momoa, he did look intelligent & cunning enough to do the Robert E. Howard's novels justice.
Unfortunately he just didn't have the screen presence compared to Arnold.

Plus it does'nt help with Marcus Nispel directing.

Certainly didn't. He sure handled the gore nicely, too bad there wasn't much else in this rather cliche story... And frankly, I missed things that made Conan stand out like a character.

The original Conan movie had a number of scenes that clearly built his character: the 'what's best in life' lesson, biting the vulture, hitting the camel, praying to Crom... Momoa didn't get any character scene. So they made Conan look alright... they just forgot about characterisation ... and story.

I've got two of the Robert E Howard Conan books with the short stories, Just have'nt got around to reading them i'll get to them eventually.

They are an easy read...