Originally posted by mattatom
Not using an A>B>C argument are you? Since Maul did manipulate them into an area where Qui Gon couldn't put his style "to the max".
ok i guess its kind abc ish.
but Qui Gon had so much space to manuever... Look at all those catwalks. I was able to jump around on them in JKA. Why couldn't Qui Gon? It was his stupidity that made him lose. His style wasn't a part of why he lost. Notice all the jumping around? Thats ataru.
I know what Ataru is. I didn't notice that much jumping at all.
Proof.
"Although Qui-Gon was one of the best lightsaber duelists in the Order, his preferred practice of Form IV proved disadvantageous in the confined space of the cooling pit, as Ataru required a wide, open space for its energetic acrobatics and multi-angular bladework."
Originally posted by mattatom
I know what Ataru is. I didn't notice that much jumping at all.Proof.
"Although Qui-Gon was one of the best lightsaber duelists in the Order, his preferred practice of Form IV proved disadvantageous in the confined space of the cooling pit, as Ataru required a wide, open space for its energetic acrobatics and multi-angular bladework."
Good work, Matt.
Both sides were disadvantaged though. Maul was actually hurt.
Originally posted by mattatom
I know what Ataru is. I didn't notice that much jumping at all.Proof.
"Although Qui-Gon was one of the best lightsaber duelists in the Order, his preferred practice of Form IV proved disadvantageous in the confined space of the cooling pit, as Ataru required a wide, open space for its energetic acrobatics and multi-angular bladework."
notice that I was talking about the catwalk part of their duel.. he could have easily used ataru more effectively then.
Also, if their duel was going to the pit area, He should have stayed in the area where his style would give him the best advantage.
Sorry just unused to receiving them.
dude lol.
and fixed my sig
I think that if Sidious could speed blitz 3 of the most accomplished jedi to ever exist, then there is a small chance that Mace could do so as well. More likely however, he'll have a very hard time, but probably win in the end (Dooku almost beat Anakin + Obi Wan together, and Mace Windu beat SIDIOUS whose stronger than Dooku ...yes that's ABC and has some holes but still...).
Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Good work, Matt.Both sides were disadvantaged though. Maul was actually hurt.
which duel r u talking about? vs obi-wan & qui-gon, or vs boondara?
the speeder exploded, which is the only reason he got hurt.
Against the ep 1 ppl, the only way he was hurt was when Qui-Gon ***** slapped him in the face, and he fell to another catwalk.
Which didn't affect him that much, cuz he was able to instantly kick qui-gon when he jumped down to assualt maul.
Originally posted by kotorfan
the speeder exploded, which is the only reason he got hurt.
Did you even read the whole novel?
That includes the battle with his apprentice.
Who lasted longer than Anoon did himself.
Also, with a duel bladed saber i'm pretty sure that Maul could prevent anyone jumping over him, especially someone as old as Qui Gon. Evidence being he didn't jump in his battle with Maul on Tatooine either.
Originally posted by kotorfan
notice that I was talking about the catwalk part of their duel.. he could have easily used ataru more effectively then.Also, if their duel was going to the pit area, He should have stayed in the area where his style would give him the best advantage.
dude lol.
and fixed my sig
At Slash: Wookiepedia, i'm ad to say, though the fim is evidence enough and i'm willing to wager someone with the novel of the book can shed a familar quote.
Also, with a duel bladed saber i'm pretty sure that Maul could prevent anyone jumping over him, especially someone as old as Qui Gon. Evidence being he didn't jump in his battle with Maul on Tatooine either.
I'm positive that obi-wan jumped over him in the first few seconds of their duel...
check this out:
it happens at 28 seconds.
You mean the cooling pit which is a perfect circle?
No, I was talking about staying in the catwalk area. They were pursuing Maul the whole time, which tires them out.
and yeah I forgot about the Darsha fight. But they couldn't harm him with lightsabers, and had to rely on devious tricks.
She was a padawan! Quoted to be "Less talented than Obi Wan". Obi Wan does indeed jump over him, however They are not on a catwalk, Obi Wan is younger.and Qui Gon isn't attacking him at this time either. They were trying to despose of him, so kept pursuing him, his job was to kill the Jedi, or hold them off till reinforcements arrived.
So? If I was fighting for my life i'd win by any means possible.
Originally posted by mattatom
She was a padawan! Quoted to be "Less talented than Obi Wan".
What? Darth Maul's thoughts said that she had the force mastery of a Jedi Master.
Her saberwork was just not up to par with her force mastery. what do you mean less talented than Obi-Wan? quotations please? or a link saying that she is
Less talanted than Obi-Wan
So? If I was fighting for my life i'd win by any means possible.
??? Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon were fighting for their lives, and both lost. Obi-Wan's "win" was completely due to luck.
Maul was fighting for his life during his training with Sids, and he still lost. Its not a given that you will win if fighting for your life.