Odin vs all high/mid/low heralds

Started by carver95 pages

Originally posted by Enyalus

I also mentioned he can manipulate time, which you apparently chose to ignore. Also, I was arguing for IM and Damage doing this alone. If you really want to argue for Odin against all of these...hey, more power to you. But beings like Genis, Zemo, Rachel Summers, etc., for example, would laugh off any time manipulation attempts.

I agree. And part of IM's deal is that he's directly connected to The Source and can channel as much of its power as deemed necessary. If he channels that into Damage, viola...game over.

Zemo, Henshaw, Genis, IM, Thor, Lobo, Magus, J'onn, Quasar, Rachel, Swamp Thing, Void, Waverider, Wonder Woman, Absorbing Man (possibly), Cassandra Nova, Damage, Juggernaut, and Shadow King at bare minimum would all survive. [/B]

Why do you think wonder woman would survive? I dont think her durability would allow her to survive an attack like that. She's at a 100 percent at taking blunt force trama but blast and lazers, some could kill her, especially at a magnitude that leo wrote in his post. I dont think cassandra would survive either, or absorbing man.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Sentry being in the high herald category is absolutely retarded. The rest of the High Herald tier is pretty solid.

That wasnt the point of anyone post; we all agree that some of the people that is listed in the high herald tier belongs BUT there are some that is listed in mid tier that is more powerful than 90% of the people in the high tier, so why arent they there? 😕

Whoever made the list did a bad job.

Originally posted by carver9
Why do you think wonder woman would survive?

Crossed bracers.

And in addition to IM & Damage doing this, another combination would be Wonder Woman, Genis-Vell, Absorbing Man. Bam...

I could do this all night, really.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Crossed bracers.

And in addition to IM & Damage doing this, another combination would be Wonder Woman, Genis-Vell, Absorbing Man. Bam...

I could do this all night, really.

Is there any examples of her shield going through an explosion of this magnetude? 😮

Absorbing man doesnt have any kind of showings that presents him as a galaxy absorber or him having the durability to withstand such an attack.

Originally posted by carver9
Is there any examples of her shield going through an explosion of this magnetude? 😮

Tanking the attack of her entire pantheon of gods? Shots from Ares amped by the Godwave?

Originally posted by carver9
Absorbing man doesnt have any kind of showings that presents him as a galaxy absorber or him having the durability to withstand such an attack.

Absorbing Man touches Diana's bracers, becoming basically invulnerable. He touches the Nega Bands and can now amp himself and absorb Odin's energy, too. 😛 Viola again.

Superman or Iceman solo easy 😐

Diana also has magical resistance she's tailor made to hold her own against skyfathers especially magic based ones.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Diana also has magical resistance she's tailor made to hold her own against skyfathers especially magic based ones.

Whoever's spread the rumor that Odin's power is magic should be drawn and quartered.

The Odinforce is godly essence. Divine power. That he has magical knowledge and power in addition to this does not mean he's a magical entity.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Diana also has magical resistance she's tailor made to hold her own against skyfathers especially magic based ones.
so did desak

Originally posted by psycho gundam
so did desak

The Asgardians thought that Desak would beat Odin if they ever faced off. They were shocked that Thor won.

Couldn't Odin unleash a Galaxy wrecking attack wiping out most on the list?

Yes.

But the ones left are the only real challenge anyway.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Tanking the attack of her entire pantheon of gods? Shots from Ares amped by the Godwave?

Absorbing Man touches Diana's bracers, becoming basically invulnerable. He touches the Nega Bands and can now amp himself and absorb Odin's energy, too. 😛 Viola again. [/B]

I hate your genious ass 😠

😉 Just playing but you have gotten me to shut the hell up about your post.

Originally posted by carver9
I hate your genious ass 😠

😉 Just playing but you have gotten me to shut the hell up about your post.

Ha! Raoul, Bada...if you read this, you shall know I am the best and have done the impossible!!

Where is raoul at anyway, I havent debated against him in a while, miss fussing with him. 😉

Originally posted by carver9
Where is raoul at anyway,

Locked in my closet, David Carradine style.

Originally posted by Enyalus

I also mentioned he can manipulate time, which you apparently chose to ignore. Also, I was arguing for IM and Damage doing this alone. If you really want to argue for Odin against all of these...hey, more power to you. But beings like Genis, Zemo, Rachel Summers, etc., for example, would laugh off any time manipulation attempts.

😂

genis, perhaps. rachel?? she was ko'd by thor among others. zemo w/stones doesn't reach ss level. you've no basis for your claim that they'd be immune to being frozen in time. and if damage is frozen, IM isn't giving him anything. i'd love to see IM's time manip feats. regardless, like i said--IM shouldn't be in this, imo.

I agree. And part of IM's deal is that he's directly connected to The Source and can channel as much of its power as deemed necessary. If he channels that into Damage, viola...game over.

as much as he wants at will? that i'd like to see.

Zemo, Henshaw, Genis, IM, Thor, Lobo, Magus, J'onn, Quasar, Rachel, Swamp Thing, Void, Waverider, Wonder Woman, Absorbing Man (possibly), Cassandra Nova, Damage, Juggernaut, and Shadow King at bare minimum would all survive.

thor only helps since it would provide odin with mjollnir on top of everything else. thor alone has negated jugg's shield with power from mjollnir that is only the fraction of odin's power that is in the hammer. why on earth would jonn be immune to time freeze? or cassandra? or shadow king? or absorbing man. you think IM would be able to protect all of them? again, that is something i'd love to see.

and you think all those guys you mentioned above could do more damage than a blast capable of destroying an entire GALAXY can do??

it's not a question of arguing for him--one galaxy destroying blast ends the VAST majority of them before the battle even starts. time freeze next takes out all but the barest minimum and of what's left they wouldn't be able to put him down. this is regular genis, not insane. if odin effortlessly one-shots ss, genis isn't doing any better. damage+IM is the only true threat but if damage is killed at the outset or frozen in time, then that's not a problem.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Tanking the attack of her entire pantheon of gods? Shots from Ares amped by the Godwave?

Absorbing Man touches Diana's bracers, becoming basically invulnerable. He touches the Nega Bands and can now amp himself and absorb Odin's energy, too. 😛 Viola again. [/B]

what makes you think he'd have time? besides, loki empowered creel. it wouldn't surprise me to see odin capable of simply removing his power at will. oh, and odin wouldn't have to do anything. if creel touched the bands he'd likely kill himself much like what happened when he touched the q-bands.

Originally posted by leonidas
😂

genis, perhaps. rachel?? she was ko'd by thor among others. zemo w/stones doesn't reach ss level.


Rachel also beat Galactus. If you're using Odin's absolute highest feat...destroying galaxies in battle with another skyfather, I have a right to also use high feats. And Rachel would also be immune to a time freeze, considering that she can control and manipulate all timelines at will. And Zemo absolutely WTFpwn'd an amped Grandmaster. He's certainly above SS's level. And also makes time, space, and dimensional boundaries his b*tch.

Originally posted by leonidas
you've no basis for your claim that they'd be immune to being frozen in time. and if damage is frozen, IM isn't giving him anything. i'd love to see IM's time manip feats. regardless, like i said--IM shouldn't be in this, imo.

He has some in Galan's respect thread I think. I'm not the expert on him.

Originally posted by leonidas
thor only helps since it would provide odin with mjollnir on top of everything else. thor alone has negated jugg's shield with power from mjollnir that is only the fraction of odin's power that is in the hammer. why on earth would jonn be immune to time freeze? or cassandra? or shadow king? or absorbing man. you think IM would be able to protect all of them? again, that is something i'd love to see.

I was listing the beings who would survive a galaxy's destruction, not time freeze.

Originally posted by leonidas
it's not a question of arguing for him--one galaxy destroying blast ends the VAST majority of them before the battle even starts. time freeze next takes out all but the barest minimum and of what's left they wouldn't be able to put him down. this is regular genis, not insane. if odin effortlessly one-shots ss, genis isn't doing any better. damage+IM is the only true threat but if damage is killed at the outset or frozen in time, then that's not a problem.

Captain Marvel has the exact same power as Insane Genis did. The difference was that Insane Genis no longer held back and wasn't afraid to use his power. Odin wouldn't be one-shotting him when he can make light construct duplicates, pull other versions of himself from the timestream, go intangible, absorb nega bombs capable of destroying a galaxy and breaking spacetime, amp his durability and strength, and control all forms of energy, etc.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes.

But the ones left are the only real challenge anyway.

Who would survive such a blast?