Nightmare(SC) vs Link

"sigh"....Pyron is an enormous larger than planet sized entity, regardless of whether or not Links triforce gives him what he wants passively deep down or what he wants directly from him asking for it, Pyron is going to make him immedialtey want it gone..

Nightmare, a crude looking being Link could easily fight given Screampastes deductions and powers would not provoke an instant requirement for it to be gone, so if Links triforce only allows him what he really wants deep down, he may not get Nightmare instantly removed.

Originally posted by Burning thought
"sigh"....Pyron is an enormous larger than planet sized entity, regardless of whether or not Links triforce gives him what he wants passively deep down or what he wants directly from him asking for it, Pyron is going to make him immedialtey want it gone..

Nightmare, a crude looking being Link could easily fight given Screampastes deductions and powers would not provoke an instant requirement for it to be gone, so if Links triforce only allows him what he really wants deep down, he may not get Nightmare instantly removed.

How a character goes about defeating an opponent is up to them, the goal is to defeat, not necessarily disintegrate into nothing. Link could just end up getting a ridiculous boost or he may get something other than what would help him against Nightmare, like peace and happiness or something or w/e he wished for in LoZ. That's only if the tool didn't adhere to his direct wish and looked at what he really wants.

The only thing a character really wants is to defeat the opposing character when it is in a vs. thread.

So the Triforce will grant that wish regardless.

How do you know that? for all you know he could want to do something else, the character does not lose all thoughts and personality in an argument. Thats never part of a thread....

It is true we cannot destroy the character's personality to conform to the vs threads, however, generally, we have the characters "Bloodlusted" and attempt to kill the opponent if the option is available...

It does however, become tedious, we should take personality traits into consideration when trying to reach an actual conclusion. Would link not try everything else in his arsenal before resorting to the Triforce to win any and every match he has it in? Kina becomes a plot device then doesn't it?

I dont think Links the kind of guy to just wish something out of existence anyway, even if he is blood lusted, otherwise that sort of goes against his just and courageous character.

Why would Link, who already has the triforce, bother doing anything more than making a quick wish to get rid of Nightmare? Hey, there's an evil dude here.. Hey, now there isn't, sweet.

I believe that the full Triforce grants its wielder impressive powers apart from the ability to wish stuff out of existence.

I don't think Link would even need to resort to wishing Nightmare out of existence in order to beat him.

^True. The combined power of all three pieces makes this pretty spitey even without wishing.

I dont like Nightmare anyway, so I dont really care, what ime interested in is cold hard evidence from an offical source outlining the true powers of the full triforce. I have been told several things.

I believe that the ending of ALttP actually has Link use the wishing power, but I'd have to check to be sure.

Link wins due to toonforce & plot device

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Link wins due to toonforce & plot device

Link doesn't use toonforce.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Link doesn't use toonforce.

Nightmare tears a new one.

Originally posted by Shutter Shack
Nightmare tears a new one.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice

Don't you mean the opening post? I could care less what people have posted after that.

And yes, I still say Nightmare wins. Whenever I think Link I don't imagine him with a plot device that can get him to win every battle he's put in.

But of course with a wish-granting tri-force, he could own the Soul Calibur verse. How fun that is 🙄, and it's a plot-device even when it's not simply granting wishes.