Ironfist vs mandarin

Started by SamZED4 pages

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Didn't Sentry get owned by a Hellicarrier? Thus Iron Fist can oneshot Sentry? I think we just won this thread.
I think you just won this whole forum.

Mandarin had the rings attached to his spine when they last fought.

When Tony tore some out he was done for.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Mandarin would win, he is on another level than Iron Fist
I'm still waiting for any evidence of this. It's been 48 hrs since I originally asked for any support to this claim. I've yet to see anything. It can't possibly be because of chi amping. What top tier MA'er has Mandarin beaten or at least stalemated in 616 continuity?

Originally posted by the ninjak
Mandarin had the rings attached to his spine when they last fought.

When Tony tore some out he was done for.

Actually it was AFTER the rings were torn out that he did his best damage, breaking Iron Man's arm.

Originally posted by dmills
I'm still waiting for any evidence of this. It's been 48 hrs since I originally asked for any support to this claim. I've yet to see anything. It can't possibly be because of chi amping. What top tier MA'er has Mandarin beaten or at least stalemated in 616 continuity?

Yes, it's because of chi-amping. He can chi amp himself to the point that Iron Man is a physical underdog. While he has rings, he doesn't right in a true ranged way. Rather, he uses the rings as a way to get in cheap-shots. Iron Man>>Iron Fist.

Originally posted by VanMae
Actually it was AFTER the rings were torn out that he did his best damage, breaking Iron Man's arm.
Got the scans?

Is Mandarin the only character without scans? I'm not doubting or verifying these claims but I've never seen anyone on here ever post a scan of Mandarin, does he have a respect thread?

Originally posted by VanMae
Yes, it's because of chi-amping.
Danny's chi feats are far superior and more varied then Mandarin's and it's not even close. Hell I probably wouldn't even have to use his newer stuff. I'll use his old classic stuff.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Is Mandarin the only character without scans? I'm not doubting or verifying these claims but I've never seen anyone on here ever post a scan of Mandarin, does he have a respect thread?
I used to have the comic on my comp he was talking about, but I'm almost positive he still had the rings when he was fighting IM, and lost when they were ripped out.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Is Mandarin the only character without scans? I'm not doubting or verifying these claims but I've never seen anyone on here ever post a scan of Mandarin, does he have a respect thread?
Don't hold your breath. Don't get me wrong, he has some nice feats. But it's mostly the name that people are wanking off to. The same thing happened in the Martial Arts tier thread. Mandarin and Temugin were classified as uber. I asked why and no one could/would answer. I'm seeing the same pattern here.

Note that Iron Man is wearing the rings at this point.

Here's another fight. Yes, he's wearing the rings in this one, but mostly doesn't use them.

Given the style of fighting Mandarin does, which is to say mostly fighting with martial arts, and just using the rings now and again to get the other guy off-balance, why is it such a huge deal whether he has them on? Can someone answer me that?

People don't say Wonder Woman can't fight just because she has a lasso. Y'know why they don't say that? Because her fighting-style is to go mostly hand-to-hand and use the lasso now and again. So why is it suuuuuuuch a huge mark against the Mandarin's skill that he wears zapper-rings, when he mostly fights hand-to-hand anyway?

He has 5 rings in his back.

Aaaaand?????

And you said he didn't have them.

Ok, sorry, should have looked more closely. The point still stands: so what? He's not blasting Iron Man's arm broken. Given his actual style of fighting, why are the rings such a huge mark against him?

b/c ppl are grasping as straws to devalue his feats.

Originally posted by King Castle
b/c ppl are grasping as straws to devalue his feats.
More like because people are making baseless claims without feeling the need to back them up. Like I said. He has some nice feats, but he isn't beating Iron Fist. We can compare chi feats if you'd like.

Originally posted by VanMae

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7044/im288zl9.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37499/943245-0krypt_super.jpg
Anyone know which comic these panels are from?

Originally posted by dmills
. We can compare chi feats if you'd like. [/B]

Going years without food and water by living on stored Chi.

Shrugging off Iron Man's class 85 punches, which dwarfs any mundane event survival feat you can name.

Destroying Iron Man's armor with martial arts attacks, again a feat that dwarfs any feat of damaging mundane things like Helicarriers.

Originally posted by VanMae
Going years without food and water by living on stored Chi.

Shrugging off Iron Man's class 85 punches, which dwarfs any mundane event survival feat you can name.

Destroying Iron Man's armor with martial arts attacks, again a feat that dwarfs any feat of damaging mundane things like Helicarriers.

Didn't the recent Ironman Annual pretty much make Mandarin to be a complete egotistical liar?