Toxin vs. Daken

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
When Spidey used his impact web (is that what it's called...?), Daken vanished. And sneaked up on Spidey from behind. Thanks to his pheromones. Parker's head was even clouded with these green bubbles.

That's his trademark trick... he did the same to Cyber, DP, Logan...

His speed is comparable with Logan or DP. Tinkerer even commented that physiologically Daken was just like his father.

daken's speed isn't comparable with logan , in their encounter where logan asks whether he has superspeed he flat out says no , i just trained to move as fast as i can, logasn got some enhanced speed
spidey has superhuman speed , his pheromones allow him to attack faster foes

spidey was flopping cause he was distorted daken says his peromones affect depth perception,visual acuity , SM was too much for daken wonce he relied on spider senses and that was after he was wounded 😖

Originally posted by ankur29
ASM#597:

SM vs. Daken:

Skill and strength: SM still gets sliced by Daken, but he evades him and still beats him even after being distorted by Daken’s pheromones ability, SM wins by relying solely on spider sense, and smashing Daken into ground

Originally posted by ankur29
daken's speed isn't comparable with logan , in their encounter where logan asks whether he has superspeed he flat out says no , i just trained to move as fast as i can, logasn got some enhanced speed
spidey has superhuman speed , his pheromones allow him to attack faster foes

spidey was flopping cause he was distorted daken says his peromones affect depth perception,visual acuity , SM was too much for daken wonce he relied on spider senses and that was after he was wounded 😖

1. That wasn't Wolverine, that was DP he was fighting with.

2. He said he wasn't faster than DP (as loathsome it is to admit...) But he didn't say he was slower, either 😬

3. Daken can do much more than just affecting Parker's vision. He was holding back anyway.

And did you even notice that Parker electrocuted him? Plot device FTW, how lame.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And did you even notice that Parker electrocuted him? Plot device FTW, how lame.

Did you even notice that the electrical device was also used against Parker? Idiocy FTL, how lame.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Did you even notice that the electrical device was also used against Parker? Idiocy FTL, how lame.

"Used"? 😂 He web-swung into it.

Daken was tossed with Class 10 force and held with the webbing, that's a bit different, you know? 😬

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
"Used"? 😂 He web-swung into it.

Daken was tossed with Class 10 force and held with the webbing, that's a bit different, you know? 😬

What does the force matter? It's not the concussive force which makes a difference, but rather the ELECTRICITY.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
What does the force matter? It's not the concussive force which makes a difference, but rather the ELECTRICITY.

It matters, because before that he was softened up... smashed against the wall and then electrocuted... SM just bounced off that thing 😬

Tinkerer stated that physiologically Daken is just like Logan. His skeleton isn't laced with adamantium, so I don't see how he could be slower...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It matters, because before that he was softened up... smashed against the wall and then electrocuted... SM just bounced off that thing 😬

Tinkerer stated that physiologically Daken is just like Logan. His skeleton isn't laced with adamantium, so I don't see how he could be slower...

Originally posted by Trackz
well skaar and hulk are probably physiologically the same, but hulk is stronger than him

I don't think they are, Skaar is half human mutate half Saakar.

Originally posted by ankur29
daken's speed isn't comparable with logan , in their encounter where logan asks whether he has superspeed he flat out says no , i just trained to move as fast as i can, logasn got some enhanced speed
spidey has superhuman speed , his pheromones allow him to attack faster foes

spidey was flopping cause he was distorted daken says his peromones affect depth perception,visual acuity , SM was too much for daken wonce he relied on spider senses and that was after he was wounded 😖

Spiderman was dead in the beginning of the fight when daken decided to kick him instead of clawing him. The second scan is when Daken decided to use his pheromones (even though I dont think he needed to resort to that).

Originally posted by Enyalus
Why would Daken even be able to hit him?

Toxin is much faster and more agile.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
The same reason why Wolverine slices Toxin into pieces

And given the fact the blade is magical, I wouldn't be surprised if it blocked symbiote's HF. Anyhow, it doesn't have to. All Daken has to do is injure its host...

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
The same reason why Wolverine slices Toxin into pieces

Wolverine wouldn't slice Toxin to pieces. He wasn't even inconvenianced when Razor Fist shoved a foot long blade into his forearm.

But with the Muramasa claws, they will probably do far more damage, due to the durability not mattering as much due to the scale of the damage the Muramasa does...

Out of interest, what issue is it when Daken gains the Muramasa claws?

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Out of interest, what issue is it when Daken gains the Muramasa claws?

Wolverine: Origins #36

however, it's dangerous for daken to use the muramasa claw since it could be damaged and potentially kill him

All this talk about slicing Toxin to pieces is killing me... perhaps no one knows that the symbiote would easily reform after being cut. Even if the host is injured, the Symbiote would heal him almost instantly. Venom has show cased these abilities on countless occasions, so there's no reason to think that Toxin couldn't either.

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
All this talk about slicing Toxin to pieces is killing me... perhaps no one knows that the symbiote would easily reform after being cut. Even if the host is injured, the Symbiote would heal him almost instantly. Venom has show cased these abilities on countless occasions, so there's no reason to think that Toxin couldn't either.

Muramasa blade is a magical weapon that blocks the healing factor. While I'm not sure whether or not it would work on a symbiote, its host wouldn't be that lucky.

What if Daken cuts himself?

Then he's screwed.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Muramasa blade is a magical weapon that blocks the healing factor. While I'm not sure whether or not it would work on a symbiote, its host wouldn't be that lucky.

I don't see how the host would still suffer since the symbiote is the one doing the healing and not the host.

This is also Toxin we're talking about. His abilities are more advanced than Venom's and Carnage's.