Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]Ysera and Nozdormu oneshots him. Nozdormu wipes him out of history and Ysera melts his brain (If she feels merciful).Malygos can erase existance. Deathwing has spells that proved able to knock out the other aspects in a single shot.
Alexstrasza is the top dog. I don't know more than that mmm
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Ive never even heard of Nozmordu just wiping someone out of history, maybe he should just do it to the Old gods then.....
Ive only heard of a single spell for that, theres likely ways to get around it, and for Deathwing, that's not very impressive...
neither do I....which was the prime point of my question, although its curious, Utrigita claims he rates her above Kratos based on a statement, not a feat.... 😬
A statement made by Krasus when they assaulted Sargeras using the Axe that Brox had planted in his leg as a focus point, Krasus stated that the power he released compared to Alexstrasza was reduced thousendfold ore something like that. The fact that he compares his own personal power to a being and then stats the being in question to be above him by a significant margin is enough for me to judge that Alexstrasza >>> Krasus and this is entirely disregarding that the Aspects have always shown that they are above their off spring.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Ive never even heard of Nozmordu just wiping someone out of history, maybe he should just do it to the Old gods then.....Ive only heard of a single spell for that, theres likely ways to get around it, and for Deathwing, that's not very impressive...
neither do I....which was the prime point of my question, although its curious, Utrigita claims he rates her above Kratos based on a statement, not a feat.... 😬
You don't know our dear Nozdormu. He doesn't want to. He doesn't care if the entire Azeroth population dies in war or starvation or whatever. He couldn't care less. The only times he has been hostile was when his realm was in danger. The only time it was in danger when the Old Gods was involved, his paws were tied.
Sure. Use Malygos power against him and you are secure. Deathwing did. Not even space escaped it. The day Kratos is proven more durable than existence, I'll concede that particular point.
I think it is. Deathwing didn't even knock Malygos out when he sent him flying to the other side of the planet with a blast so powerful that it wiped out the entire blue flight.
Above KRASUS.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Ive never even heard of Nozmordu just wiping someone out of history, maybe he should just do it to the Old gods then.....Ive only heard of a single spell for that, theres likely ways to get around it, and for Deathwing, that's not very impressive...
neither do I....which was the prime point of my question, although its curious, Utrigita claims he rates her above Kratos based on a statement, not a feat.... 😬
1. Even though severely weakened, the Old Gods still have some time powers themselves.
2. Old Gods are apparently needed for the planet's continueous survival.
3. Nozdormu can't just go and delete someone from history just because that someone has malicious intents. It's not how it works. Nozdormu may only interfere if someone tries to screw with time directly.
Archimonde could have succeeded at destroying Azeroth and Nozdormu would have still been forbidden to interfere.
Originally posted by Utrigita1. You're going to have to explain this to me...He is going to conjure an Earthquake on Kratos?
If a guy uses lets say a spell to conjure up a earthquake and destroys the magical shielded structures of Dalaran, we can't assume that the same spell can be utilized on a human?True but teleport far enough away and prepare it into Kratos comes into view should be a fairly simple matter, not to mention that Archimonde really toke his time with drawing the circle on the ground.
BT: Krasus powerlevel was stated to be 1000 times smaller then Alexstrasza that is why.
2. Well it also had an incantation, maybe he has to do it slowly to build his mana?
Originally posted by NemeBro
1. You're going to have to explain this to me...He is going to conjure an Earthquake on Kratos?2. Well it also had an incantation, maybe he has to do it slowly to build his mana?
He used an example. An Earthquake effects a human even though it focus on a building.
I don't think I need to say this, but mana doesn't apply to a character outside the game. It all comes down to how much casting he can do before he is physically drained of stamina ✅
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
1. Even though severely weakened, the Old Gods still have some time powers themselves.
2. Old Gods are apparently needed for the planet's continueous survival.
3. Nozdormu can't just go and delete someone from history just because that someone has malicious intents. It's not how it works. Nozdormu may only interfere if someone tries to screw with time directly.Archimonde could have succeeded at destroying Azeroth and Nozdormu would have still been forbidden to interfere.
1. makes no diffrence, according to Cowgirl Noz can just wipe something from excistence, although I think theres many limits or no limits fallacies based on this power if hes shown it at all, I doubt he could just erase a major being from time.
2. no comment
3. Thats just a duty, but obvioulsy him and his flight came up against Deathwing did they not? ive heard of all the flights facing him and being smashed away by his demon soul many times.
I think people who take Noz lack of sympathy as a reason for him to stop a major blight on the planet (Old god, Archimonde, Sarg) are taking things too far, you dont need sympathy to do that.
Originally posted by Burning thought
1. makes no diffrence, according to Cowgirl Noz can just wipe something from excistence, although I think theres many limits or no limits fallacies based on this power if hes shown it at all, I doubt he could just erase a major being from time.2. no comment
3. Thats just a duty, but obvioulsy him and his flight came up against Deathwing did they not? ive heard of all the flights facing him and being smashed away by his demon soul many times.
I think people who take Noz lack of sympathy as a reason for him to stop a major blight on the planet (Old god, Archimonde, Sarg) are taking things too far, you dont need sympathy to do that.
1. What makes a major being any more safe from being erased from history than a lesser? Krasus would've been erased, and I don't consider him minor. He alone could probably put up a fight against Kratos.
3. The bronze dragonflight doesn't take battle. The only one that involved herself in it was Soridormi, and that was for the Demon Soul.
4. So that's why when Krasus came pleading to Nozdormu for help, Nozdormu said that the mortal realm wasn't of his concerne. Krasus told him that it would be the end of Azeroth as they knew it, and Nozdormu responded "I know".
That's not taking it too far. That's stating fact. Nozdormu wouldn't care if Azeroth went up in flames.
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]1. What makes a major being any more safe from being erased from history than a lesser? Krasus would've been erased, and I don't consider him minor. He alone could probably put up a fight against Kratos.3. The bronze dragonflight doesn't take battle. The only one that involved herself in it was Soridormi, and that was for the Demon Soul.
4. So that's why when Krasus came pleading to Nozdormu for help, Nozdormu said that the mortal realm wasn't of his concerne. Krasus told him that it would be the end of Azeroth as they knew it, and Nozdormu responded "I know".
That's not taking it too far. That's stating fact. Nozdormu wouldn't care if Azeroth went up in flames.
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1. significance in time perhaps, but as I said, ive not even seen evidence that he can erase a being from time just like that, it seems unlikely that he has such power, otherwise he would have done so.
3. Ah so they do care then...
4. Then why did Nozmordu bother doing these things youve stated? apprently he repaired a hole in time, apprently he stopped a flux destorying the world and absorbed its power, apprently hes time traveled, why would he do any of this? Also those are falliable character statements, he could have for all we know simply be dismissing Krasus in a way that he knew would work, perhaps e knew the truth of the events, then again.....it was not the end of Azeroth, considering Nozmordu is supposed to know all of time, his response was not necesserily a truthful one. You cannot assume Nozmordu would do nothing if a great enough need came along.
Even if it would destroy or lead to the destruction of him and his flight? of all the dragon flights? when is this stated that all of the world and perhaps all the dragons would be destroyed and he would do nothing? I find this hard to belive....
1. Why would he have done so? The only time his realm has been in danger, he was trapped and couldn't do anything. By the time he was free, his realm was no longer threatened, so he had no reason to go about destroying people.
3. Soridormi acted as the ambassador of the bronze flight. She cares about what happens, but doesn't involve directly. She took the place of Nozdormu in the creating of the Demon Soul without consulting him.
4. He repaired a hole in time, because the entire universe, time and space, existence was going to be destroyed. If existence would be destroyed, his realm would've been no more. I don't see what you're trying to say with this. Nozdormu has proved that he doesn't care about the fate of the mortals.
Krasus told Nozdormu that if things happened the way they were about to, Azeroth would fall and all the mortal races with it. Nozdormu answered "I know", but that doesn't mean he was saying that was going to happen. Only that it would be the result if Krasus fears came true.
The bronze dragonflight are aware that Nozdormu put his duty way above their well-being. Bronze dragons has died all over history for one reason or the other, and Nozdormu didn't even bother trying to save them. Bronze dragons themselves have said that they never expect the great one (Nozdormu) to come to their aid.
Nozdormu is a heartless, icecold bastard. Probably the most selfish and emotionless character in Warcraft (That includes Sargeras)
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]1. Why would he have done so? The only time his realm has been in danger, he was trapped and couldn't do anything. By the time he was free, his realm was no longer threatened, so he had no reason to go about destroying people.3. Soridormi acted as the ambassador of the bronze flight. She cares about what happens, but doesn't involve directly. She took the place of Nozdormu in the creating of the Demon Soul without consulting him.
4. He repaired a hole in time, because the entire universe, time and space, existence was going to be destroyed. If existence would be destroyed, his realm would've been no more. I don't see what you're trying to say with this. Nozdormu has proved that he doesn't care about the fate of the mortals.
Krasus told Nozdormu that if things happened the way they were about to, Azeroth would fall and all the mortal races with it. Nozdormu answered "I know", but that doesn't mean he was saying that was going to happen. Only that it would be the result if Krasus fears came true.
The bronze dragonflight are aware that Nozdormu put his duty way above their well-being. Bronze dragons has died all over history for one reason or the other, and Nozdormu didn't even bother trying to save them. Bronze dragons themselves have said that they never expect the great one (Nozdormu) to come to their aid.
Nozdormu is a heartless, icecold bastard. Probably the most selfish and emotionless character in Warcraft (That includes Sargeras)
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1. Why would anyone trap him if he wouldnt bother doing anything?
3. So bronze dragons can have emotions it seems.
4. Ime not talking about mortals, for an intelligent being such as Nozmordu not to do anything if the whole of Azeroth, him and his flight included are in danger of enslavement or complete destruction by the legion or Old gods and he does have the power to erase them then he would do so.
So its not evidence, Nozmordu knows whats going to happen, obvioulsy Azeroth did not fall.
But being icecold does not mean he is unintelligent, he knows according to his time powers when events are going to happen, therefore if something really was going to threaten the world, unvierse etc, he would stop it, as shown so far, consdiering Sarg/Old Gods are a threat, he could apprently erase them, I doubt anyone would ever speak so highly of them, hell they rarely speak as highly of Noz if he could erase a Titan or an Old God.
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!The earthquake that destroyed Dalaran would not make Kratos lose his balance though...
[b]He used an example. An Earthquake effects a human even though it focus on a building.I don't think I need to say this, but mana doesn't apply to a character outside the game. It all comes down to how much casting he can do before he is physically drained of stamina ✅
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For normal spells. Paramount spells to my understanding are not applied the same way normal ones are. Mana is just one way to put it. Would you preger energy? Magicka? Power?
Originally posted by NemeBro
The earthquake that destroyed Dalaran would not make Kratos lose his balance though...For normal spells. Paramount spells to my understanding are not applied the same way normal ones are. Mana is just one way to put it. Would you preger energy? Magicka? Power?
It wasn't an earthquake.