Re: How strong is Iron Man?
Originally posted by Darth Martin
1. Break out of thick steel chains.
Yes.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
2. Bend jail cell bars made of steel.
Yes.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
3. Lift an SUV
Yes.
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4. Hold up that closing wall in T3: Rise of the Machines that T-850 held up.
Maybe, leaning towards yes. Those doors likely didn't have all that much pressure behind them beyond enough to shut them.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
5. Floor RoboCop w/ one punch.
I'm unsure of RoboCop's durability, so I'm going to say maybe leaning towards yes.
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6. Floor Mr. Incredible w/ one punch.
No way in hell, for reasons previously mentioned. Mr. Incredible is just too durable.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
7. Stop the speeding train in Spiderman 2.
Yes. I think his grip can match Spidey's, plus unlike Spidey, Tony can use repulsor blasts or just his boot jets to help slow down the train faster.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
8. Make a blindfolded King Kong notice you with a punch.
I think so. King Kong was Gargantuan, but mostly normal in terms of animal traits and durability.
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9. Make a blindfolded Hulk notice you with a punch.
Only if Hulk wasn't already focused on something else.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
20 tons at max power eh?
spiderman wrecks him
colossus doesnt notice him
Colossus has no feats. All of his feats in X3, Iron Man can duplicate. Spider-Man wrecks him? He took a tank shell at a thousand feet or so then fell down from the atmosphere. His reaction speeds are actually pretty impressive in the suit. Let's not go on to mention that Iron Man soaked up all of Iron Monger's weapons and attacks at very low and decreasing power levels.
Spider-Man might be physically stronger based on feats but I don't see him hurting Iron Man with blunt force that bad. Iron Monger knocked Iron Man around but it wasn't killing him or damaging suit beyond repair. It was mostly slight internal bending or cosmetic damage. Iron Man at full power would probably wreck Stane in a fight. That's just the Mark III; the Iron Man 2 models(w/ exception of Mark V) would be ownage.
Hmm I've been wondering about Iron Man's strength level for a while, not sure how I missed this thread.
Several people already mentioned the SUV feat from the first movie. But there's one thing, the SUV was dropped onto him, he didn't lift it up. To illustrate my point, if your maximum lifting was, say, 200lbs, and you get a 180lb object dropped onto you, would you be able to catch it? Doubtful. So it stands to reason that even at low power (19% power, just watched the scene), his pure lifting strength should be higher.
There aren't many feats from Iron Man 2 either, but he did kick aside that car and sent it skidding about 30 feet away on the Indy race track. And that was in the inferior Mark V suitcase armor too.
So I'm not really sure where he lies compared to the other Marvel characters. Stronger than Hulk? Hell no. Spider-Man? Not sure, but I -may- be leaning towards a yes.
As for the gauntlet:
1-5 he clears.
Hell no to 6, Mr. Incredible's durability is beyond Iron Man's scope.
7 probably, is he also supposed to hold on to the webs and stop it with pure strength? Or is he to stop the train with his own tools and methods? If the latter, he clears with ease.
8 is a yes, as someone mentioned, I don't think Kong's durability is any superior to an ordinary ape.
9 should also be a yes, if all he needs to do is make Hulk notice him. Hurting him however is a no, especially if it's 2003 Hulk.
Ok, all of this is based purely on the films. But the films don't get everything right. The authority is Marvel Comics. not the movies. And in the comics, Iron Man is FAR stronger than Spiderman. Its not even close. The scene in Spiderman 2 with the train was just ridiculous. Spiderman is nowhere near that strong. According to Marvel's database at Marvel,wikia, Spiderman can lift 10 tons. And Iron Man can lift over 100 tons. Case closed
Originally posted by Dexward
Ok, all of this is based purely on the films. But the films don't get everything right. The authority is Marvel Comics. not the movies. And in the comics, Iron Man is FAR stronger than Spiderman. Its not even close. The scene in Spiderman 2 with the train was just ridiculous. Spiderman is nowhere near that strong. According to Marvel's database at Marvel,wikia, Spiderman can lift 10 tons. And Iron Man can lift over 100 tons. Case closed
LoL, no. While Spider-Man is listed at Class 10, he has feats that put him well over Class 50 in the comics at times.
That's an Amtrack Superliner II passenger car train. Amtrack has them listed at 85 tons. So that's Spider-Man showing Class 85 strength.
That means nothing. Just means he can't fly properly because his jets aren't designed for that type of weight and meant to still fly properly. Put him on the ground and he could hold every person there without even straining it.
Also keep in mind the thrusters are already keeping the suit aloft, which must weigh into the high hundreds, low thousands of pounds without power.
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, no. While Spider-Man is listed at Class 10, he has feats that put him well over Class 50 in the comics at times.That's an Amtrack Superliner II passenger car train. Amtrack has them listed at 85 tons. So that's Spider-Man showing Class 85 strength.
1. That is not him picking up all 85 tons: it is one side. That's not 85 tons.
2. That is not the same car as the "Amtrak Superliner II". It looks more like that Amtrak Superliner I. However, the proportions are all off. The car is actually much smaller than the real thing...unless Spiderman was 9 feet tall in that image? Notice how the door in the center extends all the way to the opt of the car and the Superliner's are quite small...in comparison to the rest of the car (because those passenger cars are very big).
3. There is quite a bit of disheveling going on in that image and at least some of the mass of that car is missing.
4. The artist's intention could have been a lifting feat of 5 tons (my estimate based on the height of the car being muuuuch lower than a Superliner): it is thin aluminum and fluff. The artist does not necessarily have a spec sheet on the mass/weight of every object every super hero/villain will lift. If the writers wish to indicate a lifting feat, they almost always list that weight. So we do not know if they intended to make a poor and much smaller copy of a Superliner or not.
Conclusion: That's not an 85-ton lifting feat. It is much less.
My estimate: 5 tons.
Justifications:
1. It looks similar to but not exactly like a Superliner. Main difference is it is much smaller. Cars of similar size weigh around 10 tons.
2. It is unloaded: no passengers and no bags.
3. It is missing quite a bit of its mass because it is literally falling apart.
Conclusion: the car weighs 5 tons.
1) Incorrect. If you look closely, the rear of the train is off the ground as well, so he'd be supporting all of it. I initially thought it was on the ground as well; then I zoomed.
2) Looks like a Amtrack Superliner II to me, but an Amtrack Superliner I weighs 80tons.
3) Artist often take liberties and don't draw exactly to scale; that doesn't mean they're literally trying to draw something else. If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck...
Conclusion: Your estimate is off by a tremendous amount, like 70-80 tons worth.
