Originally posted by Starscream M
don't olympians possess a stong degree of immunity against poisons? I'd assume it wouldn't affect Ares too much
Im sure they do, but its never been described what his(Red's) phermones are. Just airborne. Also, if the death factor is applied, it may be curtains for Ares.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
thats what i was thinking, Ares isnt going to just fold in his grip besides he is stronger and would be able to get free from his grasp.i pick Ares. ftw 7/10
Colossus has been unable to break Reds grip. Also, if death factor is applied, he definitely aint breaking it.
We dont even know if the phermones would be ineffective. If they arent, bad news.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
thats what i was thinking, Ares isnt going to just fold in his grip besides he is stronger and would be able to get free from his grasp.i pick Ares. ftw 7/10
So you think that ares is going to pull a majority from someone who took on the entire team of exaliber and beat them in four panels. A guy who took on the entire team of xmen and almost killed them. A guy that beat the hell out of iron man physically, etc....
Ares has a hard time fighting wolverine, I know for a fact he would get CREAMED by someone in omega reds caliber.
Originally posted by jrodslamcolossus fights with punches, which Red can prob deal with better than he can against Are's adamantium weaponry
Colossus has been unable to break Reds grip. Also, if death factor is applied, he definitely aint breaking it.We dont even know if the phermones would be ineffective. If they arent, bad news.
I think it is a close fight though
Originally posted by Starscream M
colossus fights with punches, which Red can prob deal with better than he can against Are's adamantium weaponryI think it is a close fight though
Originally posted by Starscream M
people with strong HFs seem to be able to deal with the pheromones (ie sabretooth, wolverine)...no reason to think ares would be any different
Red had dealt with adamantium weaponry before.
Is Ares healing factor up there with the likes of Sabes and Wolvie?
And if its established that his hf counteracts the phermones, that still leaves the death factor that hasnt been countered by a hf yet.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Red had dealt with adamantium weaponry before.Is Ares healing factor up there with the likes of Sabes and Wolvie?
And if its established that his hf counteracts the phermones, that still leaves the death factor that hasnt been countered by a hf yet.
Red has dealt with adamantium weaponry...against a guy with basically peak human strength
an adamantium strike by a guy with over 75 ton strength is FAR FAR more powerful.
I dont think Ares hf is on par with logan's, but he also does have the god-factor working for him, so in addition to his HF, he should have better natural resistance to it than logan...so I think it evens out on that regard
and yeah, I think the death factor would work on Ares, just like a strike to the head of Red by Ares axe would prob do him it...so either fighter has the means to take out the other
logan has dealt with omega red with his old moderate HF. Ares current HF should be on par with the old HF of logan's. omega red has dealt with adamantium wpns in the past but never against someone with 75 ton strength backing it up.
if old logan was able to stalemate and survive omega for 14 hrs, pretty sure ares can do better and be able to kill him.
Originally posted by Starscream M
people with strong HFs seem to be able to deal with the pheromones (ie sabretooth, wolverine)...no reason to think ares would be any different
If anything, people on the other team would be juicing red up, increasing his stats to level higher than it is.
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and claws aint doing jack to omega red.
Originally posted by Starscream M
Red has dealt with adamantium weaponry...against a guy with basically peak human strengthan adamantium strike by a guy with over 75 ton strength is FAR FAR more powerful.
I dont think Ares hf is on par with logan's, but he also does have the god-factor working for him, so in addition to his HF, he should have better natural resistance to it than logan...so I think it evens out on that regard
and yeah, I think the death factor would work on Ares, just like a strike to the head of Red by Ares axe would prob do him it...so either fighter has the means to take out the other
Not saying that it wouldnt be possible, but that guy with the peak human strength is faster than the guy with over 75 ton strength. Also, Reds tentacles were able to penetrate straight through Iron Mans armor, so Reds power and speed is nothing to underestimate either.
I just think that Red would be fast enough to evade being decapitated whereas i dont think Ares would be strong enough to break out of reds grip.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
logan has dealt with omega red with his old moderate HF. Ares current HF should be on par with the old HF of logan's. omega red has dealt with adamantium wpns in the past but never against someone with 75 ton strength backing it up.if old logan was able to stalemate and survive omega for 14 hrs, pretty sure ares can do better and be able to kill him.
Which old moderate hf are you talking about?
Red was holding back a bunch when he was fighting logan for the 14 hrs. He didnt even use the phermones and definitely not the death factor.