Yo.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm pretty sure Ego's bio-energy doesn't fall within the electromagnetic spectrum and Quasar still managed to absorb it.
it likely doesnt, however Quasar has/had NO capability to do wat he did to Ego *solely on his own*, and as such only accomplished wat he did by way of extra tech-assistance.
so yur argument here holds no water given he couldnt/cant/hasnt shown the Q-bands being able to do it by their lonesome.
Originally posted by darthgoober
And I doubt that psionic energy qualifies as EM energy, but the Q-bands can still deal with it.
by protecting the wearer from mental domination sure, but they can still be mind-scanned..............yur point??
Tazer
Yo.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
when i said they would raise shields i meant over the entire group each using their power to reinforce one anothers shields. think of three overlapping shields or a mixture of energy which would be enough to keep everyone out.also i am well aware of how the GL rings work but they still rely on energy.. and energy is the SS and mar vells domain.
so again: U would have T2 cowering withing a shield, while the others atk it, and possibly Jonn just phasing ritgh thru it?? that doesnt sound too smart.....
SS Id bet could prolly screw w/the nrg the GLs use (as currently defined), but Mar-vell /the NBs??
I aint too sure about that; at best its a debatable idea, unless U have something to support the idea...........
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.the only Nova who ould have a shot against any of the JLA here would be Frankie Raye, the herald.
Tazer
Mira Boludo.
If the restrains are off (meaning World Mind no longer holding back the Full Nova Force.) You could and are seeing a bump in power level. Lobotomizing Ego, and tacking on Female Gladiator are indication of this.
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.so again: U would have T2 cowering withing a shield, while the others atk it, and possibly Jonn just phasing ritgh thru it?? that doesnt sound too smart.....
SS Id bet could prolly screw w/the nrg the GLs use (as currently defined), but Mar-vell /the NBs??
I aint too sure about that; at best its a debatable idea, unless U have something to support the idea...........
Tazer
i believe SS has manipulated psychic energy from an alien who had gathered it from a worlds population, also genis vell's evil twin freddy used his nega bands to shield himself from the manipulation and control of psycho man, he even used the bands to redirect the emotional energy back at him. now add the fact that three are cosmically aware and can analyze energy patterns on the fly while fighting would leave the GL's as the weak link.
i shouldnt do this but i cant resist but, SS has already absorbed the GL energy from kyle in their corssover. whether you want to believe that GL energy is will powered or not it is still energy that is and can be manipulated by a GL as well as others..
now if MM was to inter the shield he would be fighting alone against energy manipulators that can more then likely seriously injure him with their attacks, now if he were do turn intangible it wouldnt be a guarantee against their attacks especially if he were to be attacked by adam warlock and his Mystic energies. 😎
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i shouldnt do this but i cant resist but, SS has already absorbed the GL energy from kyle in their corssover. whether you want to believe that GL energy is will powered or not it is still energy that is and can be manipulated by a GL as well as others..
non-canon, and GL powers have changed since then.
Originally posted by Raoul
non-canon, and GL powers have changed since then.
i know i just couldnt resist that why i mentioned it first. 😎
but i'll summit exhibit B. JLA/avenger crossover
photon aka Monica Rambeau, absorbed and manipulated the energy for her own use against kyle again an energy manipulator was able to control a GL's energy. 😛
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i know i just couldnt resist that why i mentioned it first. 😎but i'll summit exhibit B. JLA/avenger crossover
photon aka Monica Rambeau, absorbed and manipulated the energy for her own use against kyle again an energy manipulator was able to control a GL's energy. 😛
JLA/Avengers isn't canon on this board.
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.it likely doesnt, however Quasar has/had NO capability to do wat he did to Ego *solely on his own*, and as such only accomplished wat he did by way of [b]extra tech-assistance
.so yur argument here holds no water given he couldnt/cant/hasnt shown the Q-bands being able to do it by their lonesome.
by protecting the wearer from mental domination sure, but they can still be mind-scanned..............yur point??
Tazer [/B]
I'm pretty sure that they prevent scanning too. Moondragon had a Hell of a time breaking through when she had the Mind Gem and Quasar was unconscious if I'm not mistaken.
Yo.
Originally posted by id369
abccoffeeMira Boludo.
If the restrains are off (meaning World Mind no longer holding back the Full Nova Force.) You could and are seeing a bump in power level. Lobotomizing Ego, and tacking on Female Gladiator are indication of this.
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errrrrmmm, Taco Tamale!!
1) IF WM was doing that, is still not a given since as I recall Rich was pretty much in that state when he fought Annihilius that 1st time.....and he almost got killed then as I recall.
2) Lobotomizing Ego isnt much of a feat since at the point said feat was done WM/Ego was stated to have been disarmed by Rich taking back the lump sum of the NF..........which means he beat an unarmed being.
yea, big feat there. 😂
3) taking on Strontian will likely end up requiring Robbie to haul ass to save his life, since all he really did was increase the gravity of the area she was in..........and did by blind-siding her; its not like he dropped her straight up. also, dont forget we did see how her cousin deals w/the Nova Corps, and I dont see that changing much/at all here.
4) if we're saying the full NF is being used here, then we're NOT talking about Nova here, but Nova Prime. however, the OP did state "Nova", so Im not giving *that* power state any consideration unless the OP makes that specification.
😄
Tazer
Yo.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i believe SS has manipulated psychic energy from an alien who had gathered it from a worlds population, also genis vell's evil twin freddy used his nega bands to shield himself from the manipulation and control of psycho man, he even used the bands to redirect the emotional energy back at him. now add the fact that three are cosmically aware and can analyze energy patterns on the fly while fighting would leave the GL's as the weak link.
ok, if the NBs have been used in that fashion, then fine I wont question it, however a slight correction needs to be made: Quasar only had C.A. for a small amount of his tenure, and apparently lost it after he beat Maelstrom.
so saying "all three are cosmically aware" is erroneous.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i shouldnt do this but i cant resist but, SS has already absorbed the GL energy from kyle in their corssover. whether you want to believe that GL energy is will powered or not it is still energy that is and can be manipulated by a GL as well as others..
well, if we're going to include crossovers then GLs can absorb the energy of Cosmic Cubes (which means the GLs have a chance of draining SS since he's cosmiccally empowered as well), and pre-ZH Parallax would spank Thanos.........do U REALLY wanna go there??
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
now if MM was to inter the shield he would be fighting alone against energy manipulators that can more then likely seriously injure him with their attacks, now if he were do turn intangible it wouldnt be a guarantee against their attacks especially if he were to be attacked by adam warlock and his Mystic energies. 😎
ah ah AHHH....remember that U have 3 of yur guys maintaining a shield over their immediate area, which is being beaten on by 4 equal class superhumans, so while THEIR attention is focused on keeping that up U think emo-AW, Starlord & a puny Nova is gonna mess with a phased, telepathically-blasting oponent??
slim chance on that.
Tazer
Yo.
Originally posted by darthgoober
The machine converted Ego into Bio energy so that he could be extracted from the Earth, no mention was ever made about it aiding in the absorption process.
there was also no mention of SS using his power to put said bio-nrg into his own body, AS WELL AS Gambit giving Reed a disc containing "information used to compress and imprison Ego", PLUS Banner stating that the "bio-compression protocols" were giving him trouble.
so Id say its fairly clear that the machine did the bulk, if not ALL of the work; dont ask me how the QBs ended up helping out since they (as defined by typical depictions) have no facility to affect non- EM radiation........
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm pretty sure that they prevent scanning too. Moondragon had a Hell of a time breaking through when she had the Mind Gem and Quasar was unconscious if I'm not mistaken.
Overmind read his mind w/no prob in the same ish he was thwarted from taking it over, and IIRC she was trying to take over his body when she did that and had to resort to simply trying to wake him up mentally; I dont recall her using the MG then either.
Tazer
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.there was also no mention of SS using his power to put said bio-nrg into his own body, AS WELL AS Gambit giving Reed a disc containing "information used to [b]compress and imprison
Ego", PLUS Banner stating that the "bio-compression protocols" were giving him trouble.so Id say its fairly clear that the machine did the bulk, if not ALL of the work; dont ask me how the QBs ended up helping out since they (as defined by typical depictions) have no facility to affect non- EM radiation........ [/B]
Originally posted by Tazer
Overmind read his mind w/no prob in the same ish he was thwarted from taking it over, and IIRC she was trying to take over his body when she did that and had to resort to simply trying to wake him up mentally; I dont recall her using the MG then either.Tazer
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.[COLOR=green]ah ah AHHH....remember that U have 3 of yur guys maintaining a shield over their immediate area, which is being beaten on by 4 equal class superhumans, so while THEIR attention is focused on keeping that up U think emo-AW, Starlord & a puny Nova is gonna mess with a phased, telepathically-blasting oponent??
slim chance on that.
Tazer
thats assuming that MM can even get through the shield that is made up of various cosmic and mystic energy without harm.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah the machine was used to compress Ego into bio energy, but he wasn't imprisoned in the machine or anything like that. The machine converted him into bio-energy that could be absorbed, Quasar's the one who did the absorbing.Don't remember the issue in detail so you may very well be right(but I don't know how Moondragon lacked the MG since it seems like the period when she was on the IW), but if psi energy doesn't fall within the EM spectrum and Quasar can render himself immune to tp attacks and mental domination, it means that the Q-bands can manipulate energy that lays outside the EM spectrum.
Quasar mentioned that he is able to block people from controllling his mind by jamming the psionic energy frequency with his own energy.
Yo.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah the machine was used to compress Ego into bio energy, but he wasn't imprisoned in the machine or anything like that. The machine converted him into bio-energy that could be absorbed, Quasar's the one who did the absorbing.
no, he wasnt imprisoned in the machine, becuz the machine was designed to *put* watever-was-being-converted somewhere, as was stated.
the QBs helped that machine in *some* manner, but no matter how U want to try and spin it they didnt do the job by themselves, and as such ya really cant apply it here.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Don't remember the issue in detail so you may very well be right(but I don't know how Moondragon lacked the MG since it seems like the period when she was on the IW), but if psi energy doesn't fall within the EM spectrum and Quasar can render himself immune to tp attacks and mental domination, it means that the Q-bands can manipulate energy that lays outside the EM spectrum.
this was during Avengers Infinity IIRC, and I didnt say she lacked the MG, just that it didnt look like she used it here.
again, if Elvis can have his mind read AND have thoughts projected into it, then Id say thats a clear sign of it NOT manipulating tp-nrg.
Tazer