Malygos Vs. Sephiroth

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. ...Now you are just arguing for the sake of arguing. Please shut up.

2. 100%? No, more like 90%. I acknowledge every possibility, it is POSSIBLE he can survive the heat of the sun, but not PROBABLE.

3. Okay. I will ask this question then. If he can fly through space himself...Why fly a planet through it then?

4. He was never in Meteor. 😐 What are you talking about?

5. MUCH MOAR!? O RLY? K. Means nothing. Nowhere near the sun.

7. ...He was never in a meteorite, and neither was Jenova, what are you talking about?

1. You started it.

2. If he can survive something around half of the suns out heat I would say his chances are closer to 50%.

3. Why not? The goal of Jenova was to just destroy every living thing on every inhabited planet, destroying the planet is just a way to make sure nothing is ever made on it again. (Considering planets are semi-seintent and 'heal' themselves, create life and protect themselves)

Edit: Forgot to mention Jenova was just instincts, and that was its instincts...

4. I call it a meteor for simplicities sake, however it was actually a planet that slammed into FF7's planet.

5. Indeed. But obviously you didn't get what I was saying.

6. Planet entering the atmosphere or meteorite, it is easier to say.

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]Much much much much much much much much more isn't near enough to compare to the sun. [/B]

But half, I mean c'mon. Being cooked by 3000 degrees celsius in a planet entering the atmosphere is pretty insane. In fact just staying inside a planet that is burning up, with multitudes of explosions and just fire everwhere... Then going on to destroy 90% of the Cetra...

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
And even so, Sephiroth never rode a meteor, Jenova did. Seph's physical form can still be broken apart, and J-cells can be destroyed.

Show me where Seph's physical form is broken apart. Show me J-cells being destroyed.

Sephiroth IS Jenova, why don't you understand this?

(Marlene talking about Jenova the calamity)

Originally posted by K1ll3r
But half, I mean c'mon. Being cooked by 3000 degrees celsius in a planet entering the atmosphere is pretty insane. In fact just staying inside a planet that is burning up, with multitudes of explosions and just fire everwhere... Then going on to destroy 90% of the Cetra...

Yet that experience doesn't compare to the heat of the sun. Doesn't even come close.

To the outer area it does...

Ofcourse it doesn't compare to the 15 million or whatever it is the suns inner core is.

Although I am not sure anymore why this is being argued.

It's half the temperature of the utmost outer layer of the sun. Twice that amount is beyond significantly more 😛

It's being argued because it's highly unlikely that Sephiroth will be doing any sundipping.

If he can take 3000 degrees celsius then destroy an ancient civiliasation that created magic I have VERY LOW doubts he could survive the outer layer of the sun. Not to mention being on a planet that has been burning continuously for an extended period of time.

Into the sun shouldn't literally mean into and out of the sun, Malygos and the planet would burn up before they even made it close to the outer layer. (If that scenario would even come to pass).

You do know that the sun has its own pull, right? The closer you are, the harder the pull. And Malygos teleport nigh cosmical distances without strain. Heck, if you believe World of Warcraft, he can bloody move stars.

Yes, and?

Malygos has? Where is that said?

So, the closer Sephiroth get, the higher a chance he won't get out.

It's in World of Warcraft. I'm not using the move in debates, because I understood it as merely gameplay. But when you battle him in space, he supposedly moves stars closer throughout the battle.

Indeed, but I don't see how it will pull him in too far in, he could get out of the pull like a person could get out of a rip, if he even had trouble doing it. (Kinda like how some rockets use gravity as a speed boost.)

Haha, yeah those stars aren't really 'stars' they are more like...sparks? Plus as you said they have heavy gameplay elements like increasing damage and they can be killed.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
1. You started it.

2. If he can survive something around half of the suns out heat I would say his chances are closer to 50%.

3. Why not? The goal of Jenova was to just destroy every living thing on every inhabited planet, destroying the planet is just a way to make sure nothing is ever made on it again. (Considering planets are semi-seintent and 'heal' themselves, create life and protect themselves)

Edit: Forgot to mention Jenova was just instincts, and that was its instincts...

4. I call it a meteor for simplicities sake, however it was actually a planet that slammed into FF7's planet.

5. Indeed. But obviously you didn't get what I was saying.

6. Planet entering the atmosphere or meteorite, it is easier to say.

2. Half? And what did he survive that was half the sun's heat?

3. I notice how you did not prove anything here. I'll assume you concede this point.

4. ...EL OH EL. We do not KNOW how Jenova road planets through space, so this claim is a non-factor.

5. I do. You're speculating. Stop please.

6. Read 4.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. I'll start your face.

2. Half? And what did he survive that was half the sun's heat?

3. I notice how you did not prove anything here. I'll assume you concede this point.

4. ...EL OH EL. We do not KNOW how Jenova road planets through space, so this claim is a non-factor.

5. I do. You're speculating. Stop please.

6. Read 4.

1. Sweet as bro.

2. Well, if you have a look, Jenova is riding a planet that is completely covered in flames and fire (presumably from the planet being ruptured and slowly destroyed on it's path into the ff7 planet), not to mention atmospheric re-entry which would be at LEAST 3000 degrees celsius + whatever a burning planet is.

3. No, I just blew your argument out of the water. Proof is, moving a planet through space is a greater feat then moving oneself through space however both really only require the same kind of thing to do. Force.

4. Yes we do, the creators have said so.

5. It isn't bad speculation though 😉

6. How did you even backup your original point. It was a planet and it slammed into FF7s planet. It's as simple as that.

in the original game it said a meteor not a planet.

Yeah, because once it enters the other planets atmosphere, it is no longer a planet.

HOWEVER it started off as a planet, as stated by the creators.

(My theory) However due to travelling an unkown (presumably larger then one lightyear) distance it had been bombarded by many a space debri which slowly destroyed and ripped it apart. Plus the act of being pulled out of gravity must have done something to the planet.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
Yeah, because once it enters the other planets atmosphere, it is no longer a planet.

HOWEVER it started off as a planet, as stated by the creators.

(My theory) However due to travelling an unkown (presumably larger then one lightyear) distance it had been bombarded by many a space debri which slowly destroyed and ripped it apart. Plus the act of being pulled out of gravity must have done something to the planet.

Every single point (Except the statement) in your post here can be disregarded. Nothing you bring up is bound to happen as concequence of these particular events.

What, I don't even...?

How else would a planet get so small?

🙁

Fictional universes have tiny planets all the time, see MK.

So you are saying, a completely obliterated planet with parts of itself floating off the main body and had been completely covered in flames...was ALWAYS like that?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Fictional universes have tiny planets all the time, see MK.

It doesn't really require a fictional setting in order for a planet to be small. There has been recordings of thousands of tiny planets orbiting the sun.

Another explanation could be that it's a fragment of a previous planet and not necessarily the planet itself. That too could describe it as previously have been a planet, and the fragment could've been a result from a D+ meteor impact 🙂

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Another explanation could be that it's a fragment of a previous planet and not necessarily the planet itself. That too could describe it as previously have been a planet, and the fragment could've been a result from a D+ meteor impact 🙂

Well, that's what K1ll3r been saying.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Well, that's what K1ll3r been saying.

Indeed, but I find it quite impossible the planet was always that small, considering it is entirely covered in flames and broken apart.