4-Way Dogfight

I like this one... Vader is the best pilot hands down. i think everyone knows that. Rouge if you dont. Do some research. Starscream wins though because hes Starscream. The weapons he has at his disposal are just to devistating. Vader would kill Jango Fett though. He would out class his ass to next year and make him look stupid. Vader was theoretically an even better pilot as Vader than he was Anakin. Now for Ironman. Well I dont see him lasting out of all of them because of his extreme lack of firepower. I can see him being the hardest to hit though. Since hes just Iron Man which is small compared to to a Tie Fighter, Starscream, and Fett's ship.

Lack of firepower? Iron Man? His repulsors would surely knock someone off balance and his uni-beam or missiles would be devastating. Not to mention sniping the pilots with his target lock on guns.

Originally posted by Kaibs
I like this one... Vader is the best pilot hands down. i think everyone knows that. Rouge if you dont. Do some research. Starscream wins though because hes Starscream. The weapons he has at his disposal are just to devistating. Vader would kill Jango Fett though. He would out class his ass to next year and make him look stupid. Vader was theoretically an even better pilot as Vader than he was Anakin. Now for Ironman. Well I dont see him lasting out of all of them because of his extreme lack of firepower. I can see him being the hardest to hit though. Since hes just Iron Man which is small compared to to a Tie Fighter, Starscream, and Fett's ship.

And I said SS FTW the whole time.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I thought the thread was about ANH Vader, who didnt display any outstanding piloting skills.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Why wouldn't Vader retain all the experience, feats, and knowledge he had as Anakin Skywalker? I would have to say Vader is the bet pilot here.

Well im glad you know that at least lol. And I also agree with SS winning. @ Martin. i say Iron Man lacks firepower because compared to all the other 3 he does imo. His repulers and missles would do damage yeah. i didnt say he wouldnt do damage, but he wouldnt do enough imo. He owuld get hit and knocked down before he could take any of em down. Only reason I say that.

Originally posted by Kaibs
He owuld get hit and knocked down before he could take any of em down.

That's another thing, Iron Man just might be able to run right into Vader and that might take out the TIE fighter. It wouldn't be the smartest thing to do but the TIE is much smaller in size than the F-22 Raptor. Just an option.

True. But once again Vader has the force working with him there.... and a Tie Fighter is probably better constructed and might be more durable than a F22 Raptor but we'll never know of course because one exists and the other does not obviously. Now as for Ironman... well yeah he took the missle but i mean he also shot things to make the missle blow up on those not him itself. Granted he stil took impact but still... and yes he tore through a jets wing... but still that doesnt mean he would be able to do that to a Tie Fighter. Plus you're still not taking into account that Vader is no ordinary pilot.

I am well aware of Vader's accomplishments and capabilities. I argued in his favor as the best pilot earlier in the thread. In fact Tony Stark is without question the worst pilot here. However his armor compensates for that. Not only is he more agile than anyone here, he might be the most durable. Although I think Starscream is there's no question Iron Man is more durable than Slave I or Vader's TIE fighter.

Take the measure of force Iron Man faced while having his armor stripped by Iron Monger. Now, multiply that force by, say, a thousand (being lenient). That would be Starscream ripping Tony's little tin can to shreds. I see it going like this:

Victor: Starscream
Runner up: Iron Man (saved for last)
Third base: Vader
Dead last (oh the puns): Jango

Im not saying he cant take a hit but so can they. And im saying their firepower is more desvistating than Tonys' so thats why I say Stark goes down. Im not saying hes gonna get swatted like a fly in 3 seconds but he will gets swatted first none the less.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Take the measure of force Iron Man faced while having his armor stripped by Iron Monger. Now, multiply that force by, say, a thousand (being lenient). That would be Starscream ripping Tony's little tin can to shreds.

Originally posted by Kaibs
he will gets swatted first none the less.

No I agree that he will be hardest to hit. infact I stated that. But I still say he will get hit. ANd when eh does its gonna be a bad hit.

I'm aware that you stated that. But then you contradicted yourself in saying "he will gets swatted first none the less".

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Are you implying that Starscream is a [B]thousand times stronger than Iron Monger?

How do you figure? Iron Man will likely be the hardest out of the four combatants to hit. [/B]

I'm implying that a massive bio-mechanical extraterrestrial organism is, in fact, insanely more powerful than a hairy old man in a cheap knock off of a tin can. 🙂

I am not contridicting myself... I am saying he is really going to get hit eventually. Just because you're hard to hit doesnt mean he wont get hit. Muhammad Ali was insanely hard to hit. But he still got hit at times. And unlike for Ali when Stark gets hit he will go down.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
I'm implying that a massive bio-mechanical extraterrestrial organism is, in fact, insanely more powerful than a hairy old man in a cheap knock off of a tin can. 🙂

Originally posted by Kaibs
I am not contridicting myself... I am saying he is really going to get hit eventually. Just because you're hard to hit doesnt mean he wont get hit. Muhammad Ali was insanely hard to hit. But he still got hit at times. And unlike for Ali when Stark gets hit he will go down.

Depends on what he gets hit with. Blaster cannon fire won't put him down. Sustained fire will but he can evade. Bullets? Tank those all day long if not evade. Missiles? That might put him down but he has flares specifically as a counter measure for this. I doubt Jango's seismic charges would ever catch him. He's too agile to get hit by those.

Yup I still think he would go down first too... That just shows how tough the others are too. I still think he'd be hardest to hit but he'd still go down first. As for their weapons.. well the only one who has bullets is umm Starscream maybe? IDK I know tie fighters dont have bullets they have ****in lasers. and lasers would **** Iron Man up. Also I am thinking that Jango has the same things as well and more. As for starscream his weaponry is even more damagaing then both of them so yeah. Just because Iron Man is hardest ot hit which eh is becuase of his size dont mean he will evade every hit, and once he is hes going down. All three can withstand each others attacks long enough to see Tony Die if he gets hit.

I'm inclined to believe a 20 mm Caliber round from an M61 Vulcan cannon>shots from a blaster cannon.

IDK its apples and oranges with that opinion. I am inclined to believe that a laser has a better chance of owning Iron man than a 20mm caliber round.