Mutant Files: Clyde Wyncham ~ Marquis of Death

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Fantastic Four #567

City/Small Country Busting blast.

Effortlessly wipes out most of Latveria.

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Reality Warping/Matter Manipulation
Here he manipulates matter by turning Dooms heart into stone, and his blood into acid.

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Time Manipulation
The Marquis and his apprentice shift into the Pliocene Age. dump Dooms corpse. Only to shift back into the current era.

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Fantastic Four #568
Time Manipulation - Dimensional Shifting.

In real time, The Marquis shifts time, to show how Doom corpse is about to be devoured in that specific era.

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Dimensional Shifting - Instant Death.
The Marquis shifts from the FF quarters to Penny’s place and instantly kills her.

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Empathetic-Psychic manipulation

The Marquis makes the Human Torch Relive/Feel, the way a Sue Richards from millions of alternate realities have died.

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Originally posted by Disappear
the writer of all these stories is mark millar, not frank miller. but that's a good synopsis. thanks for the reveal.

Oh shit, I got their names mixed up. Sorry my bad. 😮

Fantastic Four #568
Time Manipulation - Dimensional Shifting.

Shifting time and space, the Marquis demonstrates how he has suggested the outcome of millions of alternate realities. He then asks Reed to let him kill his son Franklin. And he will merge his universe with the millions of alternative’s into a single one. If Reed agrees to do so, he will spare this universe, and wipe out all memories of his son.

Time Manipulation - Dimensional Shifting.

The Marquis continues with his lecture and demonstration. This time, acknowledging that he is the man being held down with a cybernetic helm. It also showcases how he breaks free, and kills all to become what he is today. The Marquis of Death.

He claims he can avoid all that if he simply switches off the life support, thus kill Clyde in the processes.

Note: Upon Klyde’s awakening, you see the Watcher and Molecule Man dead among the other corpses.

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Fantastic Four #568
Psychic/Illusions

Last seen, the Marquis pulls off a mental illusion ala Mastermind/Mesmero.

again, great job on this. keep em coming.

The boy has potential, I'll give him that.

Let's just hope his defeat at the hands of Doom and/or Reed isn't an embarassing one.

That's it for now. I am glad I came across Mark Millers article, it goes to ensure that “Clyde and Marvel 1985”, are directly tied into The Marquis and Old Man Logan.

I guess we have to wait for Fantastic Four #569 to see how things work out. And maybe Old Man Logan Special, can give us some more back info on Clyde’s awakening.

Apparently members (really just a few), question what’s the connection between Marvel 1985 and Fantastic Four #562-569. The following are the comic book connections, and Mark Miller author of both series confirming what was explained earlier.

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Note: Clyde is taken from his reality, to the Marvel Universe.

Marvel 1985 #6 pg. 22

Clyde himself posed more of a problem, the power of his fractured mind far greater than anything we could ever handle.

That’s why Captain America, volunteered to take him back to Marvel Universe where scientist were more accustomed to such talents.

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Note: The Marquis claims to be Clyde, Reed R. ID’s and acknowledges who Clyde is.

Fantastic Four #568 pg. 24-26
This is your final opportunity to rescue your planet from torture and extinction. You recognize this holding cell? - Marquis of Death

This is area 87.…Clyde Wyncham the worlds most Dangerous Super Villain. He came from an alternate dimension, where he was their one and only mutant.
- Reed Richards

“Clyde Wyncham conquered time and space, and became their master. He dedicated billions of years to crisscrossing, the whole reality, becoming at last the Marquis of Death. - Marquis of Death.


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Mark Miller the author of Marvel 1985, Fantastic Four’s current Run, and Old man Logan. Basically confirms that Clyde Wyncham from “Marvel 1985” is the Marquis of Death from “Fantastic Four #562-569”.

Mark Miller interview over “Marvel 1985”, “Old Man Logan”, and Fantastic Four “Dr. Doom’s Master”.
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Originally posted by Mark Miller
So here's how they tie in. 1985 is the origin of Clyde Wyncham. And Clyde is the guy who grows up to be the greatest super-villain of all time far into the future. He is back in the Master of Doom storyline in Fantastic Four. What he's done is he's become the master of all space and time and co-exists from the end of the universe to the beginning through multiple dimensions and so on. He's just the biggest badass, you know? So you have his earliest, embryonic state in 1985 and it kind of explains who he is. So tell sell this in the most cynical way, 1985 is the origin of Dr. Doom's teacher as well as being a nice, little Stephen King superhero story, you know? And Wolverine: Old Man Logan ties into this because, without spoiling the end of 1985, the place where Clyde Wyncham is put at the end of 1985 is broken into in Old Man Logan. For people who've read the story, they know it's about the supervillains all getting together and wiping out the superheroes. So they open all the prisons and they discover this secret prison called "Clyde's Pit" which is where the worst supervillains are kept – the guys we've never heard about. And Clyde is the most dangerous supervillain of all, and he's freed in Old Man Logan. This is referred to in Fantastic Four. So the whole thing is this big, intricate web. Each thing is self-contained but hopefully they make a cool, big story. It's my own little event. After Civil War I kind of wanted to do a one-man event.

Originally posted by id369
[B]Fantastic Four #568
Psychic/Illusions

Last seen, the Marquis pulls off a mental illusion ala Mastermind/Mesmero.
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I apologize, this one needs to be corrected. Clyde did not pull off a Mesmero like Illusion. The moment Reed refuse to kill off Clyde in his cationic like state. Clyde convinced Fantastic Four’s from alternate realties to kill him and his universe.

Fantastic Four #568
Last seen, Reed and Co are fending off against an army of their alternate selves.

Fantastic Four #569
Just to show you the vast powers of the Marquis of Death wields. And to cement that he does have mastery over time and space, at all points of time.

Shortly after, Reed refused to kill him off while still in a cationic state (FF #568). Clyde convinced an army of alternate “Fantastic Four’s”, to kill him and his universe to avoid the endless suffering that awaits them.

Clyde effectively plucked them from their alternate reality, and set them against 616 Fantastic Four at that vary instant.


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Are the preview scans? I thought #569 wasn't out till next week?

Also, Why is it that Reed never seems scared or impressed by MoD?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Are the preview scans? I thought #569 wasn't out till next week?

Also, Why is it that Reed never seems scared or impressed by MoD?

Preview scans. And Reed is probably used to handling high powered beings by now.

Fantastic Four #569
Marquis of Death vs. Clyde and the Fantastic Four.
Ultimately the only way to defeat MoD, was to use his own self. Instead of killing Clyde he is awaked, and agrees to help fight his future self. The battle leaves MoD taxed, which Fantastic Four take advantage of and killed ultimately by Doom.

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Fantastic Four #569
Similar to 1985. Clyde Wyncham ~ Marquis of Death. Both summoned and controlled characters as they battled. Among those summoned, are vastly powerful cosmic characters including Odin, Ego, Galactus, Eternity etc….

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Marquis of Death claims, that in his weakened state. Forcibly canceling out Clydes powers, and sending their army back to their home dimension could rapture the Multiverse.

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Fantastic Four #569
This basically confirms, Marquis of Death was shifting between time and space with Reed Richards. It also goes on state, that universe is crumbling before them.

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Durability

As you may already know, Val and Reed where messing with the logic stream used to drain cosmic energy.

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Yeah well that device was used to drain the energy from the army of alternate Fantastic Four’s. The Fantastic Four, powers are amplified a thousand fold, against the now weakened Marquis of Death.

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Here is where, Reed instructs Human Torch to blast MoD beyond Nova to reach “Planck Temperature”. This was in order to break time and space, to cancel out MoD powers.


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But what exactly is “Planck Temperature”?

Planck energy was typical of the light filling the universe at its beginning and Planck temperature is commonly given as the Big Bang temperature.

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That’s right, only because MoD was in a weaken form could they pull this off, and effect him with Big Bang temperature. Funny part he actually survives the ordeal before Doom finishes him off. So how do you like them apples?

meh.

Now that Master of Doom arc is finished. We can weigh in the extent of Marquis Capabilities. I am certain he has placed himself among the top five Super Mutants, who could vary well challenge Cosmic Hierarchy (Mad Jim Jaspers, HoM Wanda, Franklin Richards, Jamie Braddock).

From his humble begging as Clyde in the Marvel 1985 series where, Clyde manipulated Marvel Comic characters into his reality and controlled them. Including mighty Galactus.


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To his abrupt awakening that take place in the near future (The events that set off, Old Man Logan), where villains united to take down the heroes. Among them a crew of villains broke into area 87, that holds and restrains Clyde. In his awakening, he instantly kills the crew of villains. Among them was a Rouge Watcher, and Molecule Man.

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Until finally shifting to modern day 616 reality (Fantastic Four #562-569), when he tossed the body of a dead Watcher. Only to appear before the Fantastic Four. Clyde claims (and reinforced by the writer) that he has mastered his powers conquering space and time. And demonstrated these vast powers, when he interlocked himself against his younger self in an inter-dimensional war where once again Marvel Heroes and Villains where not only manipulated. But characters of vast cosmic might, and abstract cosmics where brought into battle as well (Odin, Ego, Galactus, Love, Hate, Eternity).

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With out a doubt, it would take someone of a vary significant might. Higher then that of Eternity, and the remaining abstracts to pose a challenge. I am uncertain where Marvel will take this character from here on, apparently he isn’t dead (We have no confirmation of the younger Clyde being dead, only his future self MoD). If more information is revealed it will certainly be posted here.

Cheers - Id

As usual:
FF wins again with extreme amounts of PIS 🙄

Also, I kinda had a feeling Marvel was going to cut off this character sooner or later.

As powerful as Clyde was, he just wasn't all that impressive.