Originally posted by illadelph12K.
I understood the question, hence the edit. He has disarmed people via teleportation and some kind of psuedo-disintegration/bfr. I'll see if I can find it. He's also teleported people, equipment, etc, as I stated.He's never eaten a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on panel, so he probably can't do that.
There's a difference between eating, and using your powers in a really exotic way that you don't ever, or never usually use them.
Hence CIS.
I'd have to disagree. There's also reasonable extrapolation based on on-panel feats and similar instances/circumstances. Just because a specific action hasn't taken place on panel doesn't mean it's impossible for a character to accomplish if parallel, or greater, acts have been accomplished.
I have also always found the PIS/CIS distinction, and the way it's debated around here, flawed personally. All actions and character development is plot driven. It's all PIS: Plot Induced Scenarios, yet there's rules predicated on picking and choosing what we feel is the norm in a fluid medium.
Originally posted by illadelph12I never said it was impossible, I just question the pinpoint accuracy of Apoc teleporting something out of Blastaar's hand while holding it... in a battle. As well as that doesn't seem like something Apoc would do.
I'd have to disagree. There's also reasonable extrapolation based on on-panel feats and similar instances/circumstances. Just because a specific action hasn't taken place on panel doesn't mean it's impossible for a character to accomplish if parallel, or greater, acts have been accomplished.I have also always found the PIS/CIS distinction, and the way it's debated around here, flawed personally. All actions and character development is plot driven. It's all PIS: Plot Induced Scenarios, yet there's rules predicated on picking and choosing what we feel is the norm in a fluid medium.
oh?
So we should go to the CBR format, and have Nightcrawler teleporting limbs off every fight, and we should have Superman heat vision lobotomy everyone?
It's quite simple really:
'One' use powers equal not likely in the forum (unless it pertains to the character that it got used on... Thor vs Juggernaut)
Common powers will most likely be used.
An example of an in character trait is Thor not using BFR unless everything else fails, and by everything I mean blasts and hammer strikes. That is in Thor's character, and we can see that from his battles against impossible odds.
Another one is Apoc manipulating his body in fights to avoid attacks, and turning into things with either his hands or body. Etc.
Apoc simply teleporting something out of someone's hand is unlikely. Apoc teleporting someone is much more likely. I don't know why you had to go the extremely exotic route, you could have just as simply said that he teleports Blastaar, but then we wouldn't be having this little conversation.
And btw, PIS = Plot induced stupidity.
I know what the board definition of PIS is. It was a play on the acronym. All things comics are plot driven, so depending on any given reader's perspective, any feat can be deemed PIS, which is the paradox and flaw of the rule and the foundation of most arguments around here.
I also disagree with that assessment about CIS. All character actions are contained and defined by a plot. If these threads are hypothetical encounters rather than simple re-enactments of what occurs on panel, why would there actions be relegated and confined to mirror what occurred on panel when, by premise, we're taking them out of the plot for these battle scenarios? It seems paradoxical to me. Taking characters and pitting their plot driven actions against each other, but in a non plot driven scenario.
Originally posted by illadelph12Which is when common sense needs to kick in.
I know what the board definition of PIS is. It was a play on the acronym. All things comics are plot driven, so depending on any given reader's perspective, any feat can be deemed PIS, which is the paradox and flaw of the rule and the foundation of most arguments around here.I also disagree with that assessment about CIS. All character actions are contained and defined by a plot. If these threads are hypothetical encounters rather than simple re-enactments of what occurs on panel, why would there actions be relegated and confined to mirror what occurred on panel when, by premise, we're taking them out of the plot for these battle scenarios? It seems paradoxical to me. Taking characters and pitting their plot driven actions against each other, but in a non plot driven scenario.
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