Originally posted by quanchi112Masterson thor did nothing but get beat until the writer gave him victory to continue that story. The same as the real thor, who both superman and gladiator ONE SHOTTED and could have killed him if not for help. And in character, gladiator is now slicing people in half and blowing peoples heads off, and supes hates DD.
They fight in character. Gladiator got his ass handed to him by Masterson Thor.
Originally posted by james2099
gladiator is now slicing people in half and blowing peoples heads off, and supes hates DD.
Since when has Gladiator been against killing?
In fact, Gladiator's performance now is much, much, much worse than he fights level-headed. The god damn owl-shi'ar almost beat his ass!
Originally posted by TricksterPriestTyrant did not rip him apart and last i checked, thor is the hero in those fights, yet he needed help everytime he fought gladiator or he would have been killed. Thor the hero went and fought superman the HERO and guess what happened?
Last I checked, Thor destroyed Gladiator the one time he fought him seriously.Superman doesn't hate Doomsday, he FEARS him. DD hates Superman. Gladiator will get ripped apart if he tries to fight DD.
And without BFR, DD could solo the thread. There's no Waverider to help them this time.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Since when has Gladiator been against killing?In fact, Gladiator's performance now is much, much, much worse than he fights level-headed. The god damn owl-shi'ar almost beat his ass!
yeah, i don't even like glad's but that was pretty disappointing. had rachel not killed woodsy owl, glads may have bit the farm right there. surprised he was run through with that spear. would have been better if that guy had some history, or he was shown to be some uber-bada$$ or something. 😬
Originally posted by Kris BlazeIf characters just plow through every foe, then a book will become boring. Thats why supes get hit by far slower people in the comics. On here......... We dont have issue 426, 427, 428 coming out a week apart. You match superman up against herc here..... herc gets blitz and then booted into the sun.... in the comics however....... you may see 3 issues were they fight.
Same issue where he started killing.
Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, i don't even like glad's but that was pretty disappointing. had rachel not killed woodsy owl, glads may have bit the farm right there. surprised he was run through with that spear. would have been better if that guy had some history, or he was shown to be some uber-bada$$ or something. 😬
Yup, it was just, off :/
Originally posted by james2099
If characters just plow through every foe, then a book will become boring. Thats why supes get hit by far slower people in the comics. On here......... We dont have issue 426, 427, 428 coming out a week apart. You match superman up against herc here..... herc gets blitz and then booted into the sun.... in the comics however....... you may see 3 issues were they fight.
This is completely irrelevant.
You said that Gladiator was now cutting loose and killing people, to which I replied that he has always killed people and showed that he is evidently WEAKER now that he is fighting without restraint. Doesn't matter what you think is important in a book, it's not relevant here, that's not what we're discussing.
Originally posted by Raoulper speachification, the MB's 'upgrade' placed supes on the same level as doomsday. granted, it would have only put supes on the level DD was at before he started adapting on the fly, but at that time doomsday was still capable of absolutely pummeling darkseid with just a few blows. so if the speachification is to be taken literally, supes' powerup would've been fairly decent. *shrug*
motherbox didn't do a whole lot to his basic stats that we know of, so i don't really think it's that big of an issue.
anyhow, team 1 ftw.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeWhen people include FC before the name gladiator, they are using him at his best. As to why people run to low showings is beyond me. I think the thread starter is using planet busting, superspeed mode.
Yup, it was just, off :/This is completely irrelevant.
You said that Gladiator was now cutting loose and killing people, to which I replied that he has always killed people and showed that he is evidently WEAKER now that he is fighting without restraint. Doesn't matter what you think is important in a book, it's not relevant here, that's not what we're discussing.
Originally posted by james2099
When people include FC before the name gladiator, they are using him at his best. As to why people run to low showings is beyond me. I think the thread starter is using planet busting, superspeed mode.
Why peolpe run to low showings?
Are you dense? YOU brought up the low showings!
Originally posted by james2099
Masterson thor did nothing but get beat until the writer gave him victory to continue that story. The same as the real thor, who both superman and gladiator ONE SHOTTED and could have killed him if not for help. And in character, gladiator is now slicing people in half and blowing peoples heads off, and supes hates DD.
You just didn't read the entire comic apparently, since Gladiator got his ass handed to him right after.
Originally posted by Galan007
per speachification, the MB's 'upgrade' placed supes on the same level as doomsday. granted, it would have only put supes on the level DD was at before he started adapting on the fly, but at that time doomsday was still capable of absolutely pummeling darkseid with just a few blows. so if the speachification is to be taken literally, supes' powerup would've been fairly decent. *shrug*anyhow, team 1 ftw.
exactly right, goob. 😄
heh
Originally posted by Galan007
per speachification, the MB's 'upgrade' placed supes on the same level as doomsday. granted, it would have only put supes on the level DD was at before he started adapting on the fly, but at that time doomsday was still capable of absolutely pummeling darkseid with just a few blows. so if the speachification is to be taken literally, supes' powerup would've been fairly decent. *shrug*anyhow, team 1 ftw.
i disagree, though... ermm
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
You said that Gladiator was now cutting loose and killing people, to which I replied that he has always killed people and showed that he is evidently WEAKER now that he is fighting without restraint.
The underestimating thing seems like pretty consistent CIS for him, which makes sense given his confidence-fueled abilities.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeI didn't have to read the whole thing to know who the writer would let win after getting schooled. You are the one running to low showings. Everytime thor loses his hammer against glads or supes.... he gets KOED.
Why peolpe run to low showings?Are you dense? YOU brought up the low showings!
You just didn't read the entire comic apparently, since Gladiator got his ass handed to him right after.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Gladiator said that he was so pissed that he badly underestimated his opponent (the Owl-dude). He wasn't weaker.
But regardless of what Gladiator thinks about him, he should crush him easily.....
Originally posted by james2099
I didn't have to read the whole thing to know who the writer would let win after getting schooled. You are the one running to low showings. Everytime thor loses his hammer against glads or supes.... he gets KOED.
WRONG! Gladiator was not the one who beat Owlman, in fact Gladiator was about to die when Rachel saved him. You cannot bring up a comic and claim that we're supposed to follow what happens in 1 page and then ignore the second. If this had had happened in a separate arc then maybe you could've played that card, but not when it happened in the same ****ing comic.
Yeah, because when Thor loses his hammer, he turns into Jake...
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
But regardless of what Gladiator thinks about him, he should crush him easily.....
I'm not really excusing it, but...I can see that.
Originally posted by Enyalus¨
Meh. He was torn up by grief and not thinking clearly. It's understandable that an elite Shi'ar black ops (basically) chief of security was able to get the better of him.I'm not really excusing it, but...I can see that.
What does position say about power? If said Owl had perhaps done anything noteworthy in Uncanny X-men then he would've earned some credit, but alas, he did not. Gladiator's backed up his position as Preator.
Regardless, this is my point. James tries to bring up angry and kill-mode Gladiator as someone strong, when he is evidently a much worse fighter.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Regardless, this is my point. James tries to bring up angry and kill-mode Gladiator as someone strong, when he is evidently a much worse fighter.
My favorite Gladiator mindset is the one shown in Nova, barking out orders and bullrushing Nova Centurions in half without remorse. 😂