Originally posted by RobtardObviously. My point was they pierce. Torch's supernova doesn't so you can't compare the two.
Lightsabres cut with intense heat, ie burn.
You can pore a bucket full of cold water on someone and they'll be cold. But if you stab someone with an blade formed of ice they will be left with a hole instead of them complaining about how cold the ice is.
Lightsabers and Torch's Supernova both employ heat but they use it differently.
They don't fvcking cut people. 😐
They burn a path through what they cut, and a hole through what they stab.
By your shit-logic, Doom blasting that one guy with lightning asserts that his lightning is cutting-based.
Fact of the matter is, Torch's Supernova is hotter than the heat of a saber, therefore since Doom took said supernova easily, said saber cannot burn a path through Doom. Which is obvious.
Don't play semantics. "Cut" is the easiest way of describing what a Lightsabre does, it doesn't cut in the sense that a knife cuts, which is what you're implying, it cuts in the sense a blowtorch 'cuts', with heat/burning.
So someone need only be immune to a "X" amount of heat to be lightsabre proof(from a heat standpoint, as there are materials in the SW-verse that negate a sabre); stands to reason Doom is. Unless you have a valid reason a lighsabre produces more heat than a guy who could in theory burn Earth's entire atmosphere?
Originally posted by RobtardTwo thumbs up on the blowtorch analogy 👆 👆
Don't play semantics. "Cut" is the easiest way of describing what a Lightsabre does, it doesn't cut in the sense that a knife cuts, which is what you're implying, it cuts in the sense a blowtorch 'cuts', with heat/burning.So someone need only be immune to a "X" amount of heat to be lightsabre proof(from a heat standpoint, as there are materials in the SW-verse that negate a sabre); stands to reason Doom is. Unless you have a valid reason a lighsabre produces more heat than a guy who could in theory burn Earth's entire atmosphere?
Force Users have a great healing factor and resistence to pain and injury. Not quite invulnurability, but Luke taking those bolts speaks for itself.
I see. I'll haven't watched the FF movie since it came out because of its awfulness. Yeah, Doom wins per the original scenario. If Palpatine gets other Force powers, it's a different story.
Because his super nova was wide spread, while the lightning was concentrated on a single point, just like the lightsaber blade is.
And Mace used Vapaad to block the lightning and send it back to Sidious.
And bout Luke taking those Force Bolts, Palpy was just torturing him, he could have killed him instantly, but he wanted him to turn to the Dark Side.
And in the EU, Luke started having microseizures, and he became very ill for a while, but being Luke, he healed himself in a bit.
And no way does Thing way a ton.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Force Users have a great healing factor and resistence to pain and injury. Not quite invulnurability, but Luke taking those bolts speaks for itself.I see. I'll haven't watched the FF movie since it came out because of its awfulness. Yeah, Doom wins per the original scenario. If Palpatine gets other Force powers, it's a different story.
The zipper on your EU pants is down and you're showing your dingus.
It was a terrible flick. Force Choke, likely won't work on a guy made of living metal. Force Push, will send Doom flying but won't stop his electrical attack. Force Crush, isn't likely enough to crush a guy of Doom's durability. So what do you see Sidious winning with?
Originally posted by Robtard
So someone need only be immune to a "X" amount of heat to be lightsabre proof(from a heat standpoint, as there are materials in the SW-verse that negate a sabre); stands to reason Doom is. Unless you have a valid reason a lighsabre produces more heat than a guy who could in theory burn Earth's entire atmosphere?
id actually heard somewhere that lightsabers and all the energy weapons in the SW universe are much hotter then the sun or at least put out more energy. ill dig up some research and get back to you on that.
Actually, Sidious had enough strength to lift and throw Senate Pods at Yoda, which would weigh a lot, he could probably damage Doom that way, since in the 2nd movie, Johnny's Thing hand and the crane hurt him.
A lightsaber blade was a massless form that neither radiated heat nor expended energy until it came into contact with something solid. The power of the energy blade was so great that it could cut through almost anything, although the speed through which it cut depended on the density of the subject. One important note about lightsaber wounds is that they rarely bleed profusely, even when a limb had been severed. This is because the energy blade cauterized the wound as it passed, and thus even a severe wound did not tend to bleed heavily.
When cutting through dense material, the immense electromagnetic field generated by the arc causes resistance rather than letting solid matter enter and interrupt the arc. This gives the blade a feeling of being solid when immersed in dense material. Rarely, some solid materials can actually pass through the electromagnetic field and short out the arc. Other Electromagnetic energy fields and coherent energy are also repelled by lightsabers' arcs. These include most force fields, blaster bolts, and other lightsaber blades.
Originally posted by KingD19
Actually, Sidious had enough strength to lift and throw Senate Pods at Yoda, which would weigh a lot, he could probably damage Doom that way, since in the 2nd movie, Johnny's Thing hand and the crane hurt him.A lightsaber blade was a massless form that neither radiated heat nor expended energy until it came into contact with something solid. The power of the energy blade was so great that it could cut through almost anything, although the speed through which it cut depended on the density of the subject. One important note about lightsaber wounds is that they rarely bleed profusely, even when a limb had been severed. This is because the energy blade cauterized the wound as it passed, and thus even a severe wound did not tend to bleed heavily.
When cutting through dense material, the immense electromagnetic field generated by the arc causes resistance rather than letting solid matter enter and interrupt the arc. This gives the blade a feeling of being solid when immersed in dense material. Rarely, some solid materials can actually pass through the electromagnetic field and short out the arc. Other Electromagnetic energy fields and coherent energy are also repelled by lightsabers' arcs. These include most force fields, blaster bolts, and other lightsaber blades.
Doom took a hit from the Thing in FF4 which sent him flying, we was once the worse for it. Can't see Force Push/Slam doing much but annoy him.
Yes, we've read the Wookiepedia on Lightsabres. They still cut with heat energy and Doom has an immensely high resistance to heat.
Well if Thing weighed a ton, then Doom must have weighed more, being solid, or at least armored metal. But the Senate pods had to have weighed more than that. And considering that Yoda and Dooku both held up massive weights with little effort, it should be well within Sidious powers to move and crush Doom.
In the 2nd movie, Johnny wrapped around him, and heated up, which caused Doom visible pain, and when Johnny punched him, and Thing got in the crane and hit him, he oofed, showing he felt the pain. And like I said, while the supernova was hot, Doom was just at the center of it, the lightsaber will be putting comparable heat on a small surface area, which unless Doom's metal is resistant to the saber, should cut him.