Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Absolutely since it's a non-canon story. You cling to that Millar interview like it's the gospel "ido".
Simply because his feat took place outside Reality 616, makes it non cannon?
Or am I missing something?
Originally posted by Raptor22
knowsbleed i was under the impression that 1985 was cannon what makes u say it isnt?
He states that their is no real connection between the Marquis (Fantastic Four) and Clyde (Marvel 1985).
And because Marvel 1985 took place outside the 616 reality. Its a non-cannon event, making his feat moot and non-cannon.
Am I following this well "Scathan the Exitar"?
Apparently members (really just a few), question what’s the connection between Marvel 1985 and Fantastic Four #562-569. The following are the comic book connections, and Mark Miller author of both series confirming what was explained earlier.
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Note: Clyde is taken from his reality, to the Marvel Universe.
Marvel 1985 #6 pg. 22
Clyde himself posed more of a problem, the power of his fractured mind far greater than anything we could ever handle.
That’s why Captain America, volunteered to take him back to Marvel Universe where scientist were more accustomed to such talents.
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Note: The Marquis claims to be Clyde, Reed R. ID’s and acknowledges who Clyde is.
Fantastic Four #568 pg. 24-26
This is your final opportunity to rescue your planet from torture and extinction. You recognize this holding cell? - Marquis of Death
This is area 87.…Clyde Wyncham the worlds most Dangerous Super Villain. He came from an alternate dimension, where he was their one and only mutant. - Reed Richards
“Clyde Wyncham conquered time and space, and became their master. He dedicated billions of years to crisscrossing, the whole reality, becoming at last the Marquis of Death. - Marquis of Death.
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Mark Miller the author of Marvel 1985, Fantastic Four’s current Run, and Old man Logan. Basically confirms that Clyde Wyncham from “Marvel 1985” is the Marquis of Death from “Fantastic Four #562-569”.
Mark Miller interview over “Marvel 1985”, “Old Man Logan”, and Fantastic Four “Dr. Doom’s Master”.
http://comics.ign.com/articles/949/949454p1.html
Originally posted by Mark Miller
So here's how they tie in. 1985 is the origin of Clyde Wyncham. And Clyde is the guy who grows up to be the greatest super-villain of all time far into the future. He is back in the Master of Doom storyline in Fantastic Four. What he's done is he's become the master of all space and time and co-exists from the end of the universe to the beginning through multiple dimensions and so on. He's just the biggest badass, you know? So you have his earliest, embryonic state in 1985 and it kind of explains who he is. So tell sell this in the most cynical way, 1985 is the origin of Dr. Doom's teacher as well as being a nice, little Stephen King superhero story, you know? And Wolverine: Old Man Logan ties into this because, without spoiling the end of 1985, the place where Clyde Wyncham is put at the end of 1985 is broken into in Old Man Logan. For people who've read the story, they know it's about the supervillains all getting together and wiping out the superheroes. So they open all the prisons and they discover this secret prison called "Clyde's Pit" which is where the worst supervillains are kept – the guys we've never heard about. And Clyde is the most dangerous supervillain of all, and he's freed in Old Man Logan. This is referred to in Fantastic Four. So the whole thing is this big, intricate web. Each thing is self-contained but hopefully they make a cool, big story. It's my own little event. After Civil War I kind of wanted to do a one-man event.
Originally posted by Galan007
i haven't really been keeping up wif teh marvle.can someone update me on this "marquis of death" thingy? what puts it above thanos?
