Kyle Rayner vs Norrin Rad with a Twist.
Kyle Rayner as Ion 2. Only Kyle can accesses all his feats, plus all the other feats and abilities from his fellow Green Lantern Crop members including Yat’s.
Silver Surfer, only he has accesses to all the feats and abilities of the known (616 reality) Herald of Galactus.
Match set and GO!
Originally posted by Enyalus
Kyle. Easily. Going off of feats only.SS has most of the high feats for heralds of Galactus already. He's like, the posterboy.
Kyle's got Hal, Yat, and Kyle as Ion's ridiculous feats to draw upon.
Please explain how the how this will be supposedly easy. Kyle accessing feats from other gls is great and all but considering that he is a high end gl himself and then more than anything, the feats alot of them accomplished would certainly not be beyond him in the first place. Its not like he is getting an amp from a transtier or upwards level character so pray tell how this will be "easy"
Originally posted by Naija boy
Please explain how the how this will be supposedly easy. Kyle accessing feats from other gls is great and all but considering that he is a high end gl himself and then more than anything, the feats alot of them accomplished would certainly not be beyond him in the first place. Its not like he is getting an amp from a transtier or upwards level character so pray tell how this will be "easy"
Best 616 Surfer minus a definite temporary powerup is the Uni-Lord fight, right?
Originally posted by Enyalus
Uh, okay. Quick Vlaaad example: containing a Big Bang's worth of entropy with a fraction of the Ion Power.Best 616 Surfer minus a definite temporary powerup is the Uni-Lord fight, right?
Hmm. didnt think ion 1 was part of this match.
And yeah thats probly his best portrayal
Originally posted by Enyalus
Yat's got crazy the crazy energy manipulation feat of changing the composition of an entire star. And John Stewart would've recreated an entire solar system if his ring had enough power to do it....Ion 2 didn't have that limitation, considering he didn't need a GL ring.
Changing the energy composition of an entire star is impressive but Changing the energy composition of an entire universes worth of psychic energy as surfer did in the unilord saga is much more impressive. As for the solar system thing....... got me there if he would actually be able to create it. Cant really think of anything similar aside maybe evolving the planet by billions in seconds and being able to create blackholes (which consume solar systems). Still did ion2 really showcase the kind of power needed to complete such a feat? I really dont recall any such incindent.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Nope. Just implied power. Given that he had the full Oan power/Ion Force & the Starheart energies.
I thought so. Im hardpressed to believe that he could complete the solar sytem creation feat. didnt both ion 1 and ion 2 have similar levels of implied power? And yet ion1 far outstripped anything that ion2 did and was on a much higher powerlevel. Hence i dont think using implied power in this scenario is valid.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Sure, but he was still a GL then. Hadn't beaten and absorbed Nero or Oblivion yet. Long ways away from it. Actual Classic Ion had little showings of pure power to go on.
Hmm. i see what u mean. But even then thats still a great showing for the ion power itself as it was portrayed the first time around and is far superior to anything that has been accomplished with it in it second run Then there is also that talk he had with spectre who mentione dhow he could rewrite the universe which should clearly put him above current ions displayed powerlevel.
Anyhow im sure u get the point. 😛
Originally posted by Naija boyGL's can evolve and devolve life as well.
Changing the energy composition of an entire star is impressive but Changing the energy composition of an entire universes worth of psychic energy as surfer did in the unilord saga is much more impressive. As for the solar system thing....... got me there if he would actually be able to create it. Cant really think of anything similar aside maybe evolving the planet by billions in seconds and being able to create blackholes (which consume solar systems). Still did ion2 really showcase the kind of power needed to complete such a feat? I really dont recall any such incindent.
As the Current Ion (Ion 2) he is clearly more powerful then a GL. He counts on the Symbiote’s power and if need be directly tap into Central Battery for a boost.
Anyhow, at first it seemed Ion Symbiote was a product GL and Starheart merging. I think that’s bin changed now, right? Or has did it get ret-conned into a pre existing entity that has lived since the beginning of time?