Originally posted by Battlehammer
wolverine never said he got faster or stronger, nor has he shown this.show a scan then, not that running speed has jack to do with a fight, but I like to see it all the same.
When I get home and Beast has had a major upgrade unless you have proof of beast having any kind of a healing factor.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
.........sage dident give that to him the was natural occurances.....and that upgrade done nothing for him, he hasent shown to be any faster, stronger ect.
I didn't say that. Neither did carver. CoC II took place before the secondary mutation, that was his point.
Debatable. Remember, he's beaten Danger 😛
Originally posted by carver9
Fighting someone that defeated the entire xmen, "danger". Lets still not forget, current beast has had a huge upgrade, strength is 35 tons, speed increase, healing factor, razor sharp claws, acute senses, berserker rage that increase his already high strength, leap 50 stories high.Didnt current beast rip the head off of a sentle
No he hasent gotten a huge upgrade. His strength is not 35 tons, he never shown any feats or statement on pannel that says or even implies this. His healing factors nothign special. He does not have berserker rage.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I didn't say that. Neither did carver. CoC II took place before the secondary mutation, that was his point.Debatable. Remember, he's beaten Danger 😛
He dident even beat her if I recal correctly he simply fought her got the better of her and saved charles, but I dont recall her being compeltely taken out.
also wolverine did the same thing and fought orb and her at the same time.
Originally posted by carver9
When I get home and Beast has had a major upgrade unless you have proof of beast having any kind of a healing factor.
also why would I show evdiences of beast having a healing factor?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
If I recall he dident even beat he he foguht her for a second and grabbed charles. Hell wolverine was beating on danger and orb at onces.No he hasent gotten a huge upgrade. His strength is not 35 tons, he never shown any feats or statement on pannel that says or even implies this. His healing factors nothign special. He does not have berserker rage.
Wolverine got owned by danger along with the rest of the xmen and guess what, wolverine got owned by beast.
Its pointless for me to debate with you if you dont know anything about current beast. I cant believe you just sat here and said that current beast doesnt have berserk rages when this is something that he's trying to cure. He went into a berserk rage fighting danger. 😕
Beast is a 35 tonner, hell I actually think he's higher, in the 60 ton class, will prove when I leave work.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
No he really hasent. He become more cat like, howver he yet to show any increases in his phsyciall abilties.also why would I show evdiences of beast having a healing factor?
I'm talking about previous beast not current one since the current on posses a healing factor. You said that beast doesnt have any upgrades but his senses ( the ones that has been stated as being like wolverines) along with his healing factor is a upgrade.
Originally posted by carver9That is all great but how does that throw everything Spider-man has done out of window?😬 If we're talking feats Spider-man has some that would put him above 30 tons with ease, speed feats beyond anything Beast's ever done and that's classic Spider-man. As for defeating villains, so that guy beat x-men, ok. You think SM's never fought and defeated foes that are even more dangerous than that?
Fighting someone that defeated the entire xmen, "danger". Lets still not forget, current beast has had a huge upgrade, strength is 35 tons, speed increase, healing factor, razor sharp claws, acute senses, berserker rage that increase his already high strength, leap 50 stories high.Didnt current beast rip the head off of a sentle
Originally posted by carver9
Wolverine got owned by danger along with the rest of the xmen and guess what, wolverine got owned by beast.
beast never owned wolverine and wolveriens dropped him in one pannel before.
Originally posted by carver9
Its pointless for me to debate with you if you dont know anything about current beast. I cant believe you just sat here and said that current beast doesnt have berserk rages when this is something that he's trying to cure. He went into a berserk rage fighting danger. 😕
oh I know everything there is to know about beast pretty much, and you are vastly overrating him based on nothing but the fact he ahd a secondary mutantion.
No it not berserker rages it ferral ones. Berserker is completely different. Wolverine berserker rage he maintains his intelegents beast does not
Originally posted by carver9
Beast is a 35 tonner, hell I actually think he's higher, in the 60 ton class, will prove when I leave work.
beast uses to be 75 tonner before the secondary mutation thing ever came out, but then they desided to put him back to his normal levels after few issues.
Originally posted by carver9
Beast is stronger and would have gotten his attack in first and we have yet to see a limit on his healing factor; we dont know the extinct yet.
They'd attack almost simultaneously, they were that close.
Anyway, it doesn't matter. Wolverine was clearly holding back. When he was mind-controlled and injured, he one-shotted Beast.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm talking about previous beast not current one since the current on posses a healing factor. You said that beast doesnt have any upgrades but his senses ( the ones that has been stated as being like wolverines) along with his healing factor is a upgrade.
No I said he dident have any upgrades to his strength or speed.
his senses were stated as 10 times better then a humans.
he has shown almost zero healing factor feats.