Is Hulk the strongest there is?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not like the feat you described. Marvel has made it pretty clear that the Hulk is stronger than Herc and Thor. We don't even needs feats to address that. I said just the other day that only one poster has ignored me when he said I was on ignore for over a year. That was on herochat and that poster was you.

I think this is the case with most characters and agree Superman is stronger when mentally stressed. That still doesn't mean he doesn't have limits though. He is just stronger than he usually is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said just the other day that only one poster has ignored me when he said I was on ignore for over a year. That was on herochat and that poster was you.

I think this is the case with most characters and agree Superman is stronger when mentally stressed. That still doesn't mean he doesn't have limits though. He is just stronger than he usually is.

Originally posted by Nihilist
The point is any class 100 used like that could have smashed the Asteroid.

Didn't you say earlier that anyone who smashed a planet with punches is stronger than Hulk? Now you say that any class 100 using propulsion can smash an asteroid/planet. So if the Thing, who is now class 100, but weaker than Hulk, could fly, and propelled himself in the same manner at an asteroid would he destroy it with 1 shot? And if so would that mean he is now stronger than Hulk?

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Didn't you say earlier that anyone who smashed a planet with punches is stronger than Hulk? Now you say that any class 100 using propulsion can smash an asteroid/planet. So if the Thing, who is now class 100, but weaker than Hulk, could fly, and propelled himself in the same manner at an asteroid would he destroy it with 1 shot? And if so would that mean he is now stronger than Hulk?

Originally posted by Nihilist
You dont get it, they could fly but didnt fly at the planet to smash it, they just used brute force strength.

Well Hulk nearly sank America's eastern seaboard in WWH, just by stepping forward, exerting no real effort

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Well Hulk nearly sank America's eastern seaboard in WWH, just by stepping forward, exerting no real effort

Originally posted by Nihilist
NEARLY and it would have taken at least 2-3 more steps and thats not including the damage the shit loads of gamma he was releasing.

Hulk wasn't stamping on the ground with intent, he was merely stepping. At that power level there was no telling what sort of damage Hulk would've done, if he smashed on the ground with all his strength

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Hulk wasn't stamping on the ground with intent, he was merely stepping. At that power level there was no telling what sort of damage Hulk would've done, if he smashed on the ground with all his strength

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Hulk wasn't stamping on the ground with intent, he was merely stepping. At that power level there was no telling what sort of damage Hulk would've done, if he smashed on the ground with all his strength

He is leaking Gamma energy and it's tearing America apart. It's about a much a physical feat as the Surfer releasing cosmic energy all around him and exploding a planet.

Originally posted by Nihilist
So is the Void stronger than Hulk as he easily crushed the Hulk.

Originally posted by Nihilist
The point is any class 100 used like that could have smashed the Asteroid.

Originally posted by Juntai
I tend to stand by what I say.

Fair enough, to date though, his feats, ambiguous and not, match up with anyone physically, telling us that his strength is dynamic as any-ones'. We haven't really seen Superman's true limit, and I doubt we ever will given that it's ongoing and he'll always face something bigger, just like Hulk. He'll seemingly strain to lift a pyramid one issue, then seemingly strain to lift a small solar system in another. I'm not saying he's clearly stronger than Hulk, but that his strength is represented as just as dynamic, and hell, his average is well above Hulk. You gotta get into Hulk's biggest feats in his biggest stories in his entire history to match the stuff Superman did the last couple years alone in just random issues.

Which feats?

I tend not to be floored by feats anyways. I know writing tends to be inconsistent and like you said one issue will have these powerhouses struggling against something unimpressive while another writer will have them hurling planets.

I think the tectonic plate feat was impressive by the Hulk but at the end of the day it was just a feat. Who is to say that Thor in the exact situation couldn't do so likewise with Superman.

I think Superman and the Hulk are among the strongest top tiers out there. I think Hulk has been shown to demonstrate he is just that. I think Superman is up there but not at the top of the mountain like the Hulk is.

This is giving me an idea.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
He is leaking Gamma energy and it's tearing America apart. It's about a much a physical feat as the Surfer releasing cosmic energy all around him and exploding a planet.

Is Superman's strength really that variable based on anger/stress as opposed to writer inconsistency? With Hulk, at least, it's well known and official that 'the madder Hulk gets the stronger Hulk gets'. But with Superman...isn't it more that he's just not written in a consistent manner?

(And I still say Hulk's best feat is making pre-crisis Supes eat crow, sorta).

There's a HUGE hole in some of these arguments.

Things like Superman lifting planets and solar systems, or the Destroyer doing the sun thingy.

Hulk can't fly. If he could fly, he could very well hold his breath, fly into space, and start performing these little bragging feats. But I think, honestly, the Hulk's done well to prove his strength. Yeah, Thor supported that monster that weighed half a planet and juggled multiple planets and stuff. BFD. That further supports Hulk's strength. Even in the old days, Hulk stalemated Thor in a test-of-strength match. And eventually, Thor admitted Hulk is stronger than himself. So any feat of strength Thor has shown, Hulk can do that as well, and obviously at least a little more, or he wouldn't be stronger, would he?

Another key point; Hulk's strength has never failed him, ever. In every battle, trial, or obstacle the Hulk's ever faced that boiled down to a required strength, the Hulk's met it. Just like on Sakaar. His planet was falling apart. The Hulk said 'bulls**t', hops into the hole, and pulls the damn thing back together.

And Juggernaut is NOT stronger than Hulk. It can appear like that sometimes, but it's only because of the mystic power of being unstoppable. When you have a cosmic-level mystic entity backing you, that makes quite a bit of difference. And yet, Hulk still challenges that power. He usually slows Juggernaut down, sometimes to a crawl. As War Hulk, he even STOPPED Juggernaut. WB was clearly more powerful than Hulk's ever been before, so counting that as his "highest showing", WB s**ts on Juggernaut. How do I know this? Simple. The Juggernaut doesn't shake the Earth when he taps his toes. WB does.

Originally posted by Juntai
then seemingly strain to lift a small solar system in another.

Majestic and Supreme are both stronger than a peak Hulk. By feats, so is Gladiator. He-Man is comparable.

And Wei, Trion is trans or better. OP said under trans.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Come again?

Majestic and Supreme are both stronger than a peak Hulk. By feats, so is Gladiator. He-Man is comparable.

And Wei, Trion is trans or better. OP said under trans.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Feats don't determine this alone. Like I said before direct matchups give us a better indicator of who is the strongest one there is.

I'll admit to the obvious, that WWH and WB Hulk are stronger than Savage, though.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Savage Hulk didn't look stronger than Gladiator in their only direct matchup.

I'll admit to the obvious, that WWH and WB Hulk are stronger than Savage, though.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree. I think Hulk looked to be the stronger of the two while his durability was shit in that confrontation. Glads was rattled by the thunderclap to the eyes and was rendered helpless by the redirected eyeblasts.

He also took 2-3 sucker punches from Hulk during that fight without so much as a scratch on him, just a dirty uniform.

The HV thing was Gladiator's own attack. So that doesn't really matter. It was still cutting Hulk's chest to pieces and Hulk admitted it would have killed him.

How does that show Hulk was stronger?

Originally posted by Enyalus
You're kidding, right? Durability was shit? Glads fell from orbit after being thunderclapped at point blank range. He still recovered before the Hulk did, falling the same distance but without the thunderclap attack to hinder him.

He also took 2-3 sucker punches from Hulk during that fight without so much as a scratch on him, just a dirty uniform.

The HV thing was Gladiator's own attack. So that doesn't really matter. It was still cutting Hulk's chest to pieces and Hulk admitted it would have killed him.

Glads has always been more durable anyways, but the Hulk's was lower than usual.

This all has to do with durability. I never stated that the Hulk was more durable than Gladiator. Gladiator might not bleed as badly as the hulk but that doesn't mean he will out slug the Hulk either.