Darth Revan with the valley of the Jedi's Power Vs. Jerec and his Dark Jedi

Originally posted by DarthDaniel1001
I agree. Vader is definitely my 2nd favorite Sith.

*insert connection*

Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but, I highly doubt Jerec was near Vader considering he got beaten by a neophyte Kyle Katarn even when amplified by the Valley of the Jedi.

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Though to be fair, Jerec's power was said to be close to Vader's. And that comparison came from an untrained Force-sensitive. So that's an opinion given by a character whose knowledge and understanding of the Force is equivalent to that of a Youngling. Not too reliable frankly.

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Uhhh, well if my connection is right then lightsabers would be part of it, and its ability of skill has been degrading over time, and with Revan with the power of about 100-200 sith lords or more, AND 99 jedi(masters and knights) with Lord Hoths power (which was considerable, he may have been an image of jedi near Revans time, maybe not hes not that well described or anything) and his own, after being a Padawan that had no memory of his past, defeated Darth Malak, a fallen jedi that was his best friend that betrayed him, who was even more powerful from the Star Forge, AND resisted corruption from the Dark Side in Malaks presence and the Star Forge, i think he could be drunk, fall asleep, have the biggest hangover in history, and still pwn them with his eyes closed......... Wait, is this Star Forge before or after? memories he has? cuz if he has all his memories then he would wtfomglolpwn them under more than the above circumstances......

Originally posted by Incanus
Uhhh, well if my connection is right then lightsabers would be part of it, and its ability of skill has been degrading over time, and with Revan with the power of about 100-200 sith lords or more, AND 99 jedi(masters and knights) with Lord Hoths power (which was considerable, he may have been an image of jedi near Revans time, maybe not hes not that well described or anything) and his own, after being a Padawan that had no memory of his past, defeated Darth Malak, a fallen jedi that was his best friend that betrayed him, who was even more powerful from the Star Forge, AND resisted corruption from the Dark Side in Malaks presence and the Star Forge, i think he could be drunk, fall asleep, have the biggest hangover in history, and still pwn them with his eyes closed......... Wait, is this Star Forge before or after? memories he has? cuz if he has all his memories then he would wtfomglolpwn them under more than the above circumstances......

Power of 200 Sith Lords--whaaaaaa?

For arguments sake here - what if Jerec faced the Sith Lord Revan who had his memories? Jerec wouldn't stand a chance. Revan and Malak plundered both Malachor V & Korriban so do the math. Jerec wouldn't even come close to Revan's mastery of the Force & dark side.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
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Power of 200 Sith Lords--whaaaaaa?

Originally posted by Incanus
Yeah, Lord Kaan, the original Brotherhood of Darkness, (that are still alive) except Qoordis, and the Twi'Lek one i forgot his name, and Kas'im, and every single student from the Korriban academy, and maybe a few more. Lots of students went to the Korriban, as it is said some have only a bare connection and are very weak.

Yeah, Kopecz was his name. But i accidently made it sound like the students wernt there, which they were.

Originally posted by ares834
Jerec's power is near Vader's. With his "cronies" Jerec would destroy Revan, however in this fight Revan has the valley of the Jedi power up... Letting him easily destroy them all.

dude Jerec cant stand next to Revan even if he didnt have the valley of jedi power up. and Jerec is nowhere near Vader. Revan, Personally, iss my favorite Jedi/Sith and vader v.s. Revan would be a good fight, but i still believe Revan would come out on top

Originally posted by Incanus
Yeah, Lord Kaan, the original Brotherhood of Darkness, (that are still alive) except Qoordis, and the Twi'Lek one i forgot his name, and Kas'im, and every single student from the Korriban academy, and maybe a few more. Lots of students went to the Korriban, as it is said some have only a bare connection and are very weak.

Darth Bane: Path of Destruction. I never said Revan=200 sith lords, i said he would gain their power by using the power of the valley of the jedi.

Originally posted by Incanus
Darth Bane: Path of Destruction. I never said Revan=200 sith lords, i said he would gain their power by using the power of the valley of the jedi.

Well, yes there were some terrible sith lords that were used. Some had barely a small connection to the force. They were barely able to cast 1 lightning bolt. If Bane had been there i wouldnt want to know the results...... Wait, i just reread the part of that, there were 100 sith lords, and Githany, who was strong in the force. So was Kaan, and any others of the original Brotherhood.

Where was it said that someone who accessed the Valley gained the specific powers of each lingering Sith? As far as Dark Forces and Outcast made clear, the Valley offered "great power", but nothing specific.

You cant access specific souls, but only the full power. You owuld have the srength of Hoth and 100 jedi knights/master, and a about 100 sith+Githany. You may even have a small amount of Banes power, as he was affected to. Just barely though. Small tug on his mind.

Originally posted by Incanus
You cant access specific souls, but only the full power. You owuld have the srength of Hoth and 100 jedi knights/master, and a about 100 sith+Githany. You may even have a small amount of Banes power, as he was affected to. Just barely though. Small tug on his mind.

i said MAY gain some of Banes power, but probably not. Lord Hoth led the 100 jedi in Bane Path of Destruction down into the caves were Kaan awaited him with the thought bomb. Hoth took with him 99 jedi knights. Kaan had a simiar number of sith, maybe more, maybe less, but at least 50. Some of them only had small connections to the force. The jedi were all masters and knights. They were the ones who had been on Ruusan the longest. All my points come from Bane Path of Destruction and are canon as far as i know. POD is canon, right?

Yes it is, all of what transpired is C-canon. What is subject to suspicion is your assertion that someone who accesses the Valley's power will gain the strength and power of all these people. I can see why you'd think that, but I can't find any source which states that that is what happens. Otherwise, every single one of those shitty Reborn from Outcast should have the power of Kaan, Hoth, Githany, and 200 other Force-users... which of course, they don't.

I dont know really, i dont think the Valley has been explained in any canon source. But Maybe when the first person to use it used it (Jerec)He took most of its power away, and after Katarn did to, the Desann, i dont think much would be left. Im thinking of it like a battery, the more its used, the less power is in it.

Well there's no source for that, so until proven otherwise, it's an inexhaustible power supply, but not a convergence array of Sith Lord and Jedi powers.