Kain vs Nozdormu

So why are you making claims? dont be a hypocrite...

When is this shown or stated? its only stated he took a limited form when he took on Earth and its fighters but whether he is weakened or not its unkown, for all you know he could use his full strength on a whim, but then again..you dont understnad power beyond size, mass and physical mass do you lol....

Where does it state superluminal speeds? prove the next bit, sounds like a ton of assumption...

He does not dwarf a planet, hes been shown no more larger than perhaps twice the size of Earth...problem is...the only time hes apprently destroyed a planet is from a beam coming from his chest to destroy his home.

Also according to your sources, Pyron is nothing but spiritual essence of some sort...not actually physical being, so punching a planet to destroy it is out of the question..

Originally posted by Burning thought
So why are you making claims? dont be a hypocrite...

When is this shown or stated? its only stated he took a limited form when he took on Earth and its fighters but whether he is weakened or not its unkown, for all you know he could use his full strength on a whim, but then again..you dont understnad power beyond size, mass and physical mass do you lol....

Where does it state superluminal speeds? prove the next bit, sounds like a ton of assumption...

He does not dwarf a planet, hes been shown no more larger than perhaps twice the size of Earth...problem is...the only time hes apprently destroyed a planet is from a beam coming from his chest to destroy his home.

Also according to your sources, Pyron is nothing but spiritual essence of some sort...not actually physical being, so punching a planet to destroy it is out of the question..

It was directly stated he took a more limiting form. He was limited. As in, not his full strength. You can try to dodge this factual piece of information like the worthless pile of shit you are, it does not make it any less true.

State? He is able to traverse the universe and in merely 200,000,000 years time has added enough planets to his collection to make his own private galaxy. Said galaxy is what he controls. He is able to shrink constellations from the Ursa Major and use it for combat(I cannot prove this yet, this is recent information I learned so I admit it should not be taken as totally true yet).

He is able to make himself corporeal. As we have clearly seen.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Because unlike you I am not a moron and actually have a substantial amount of knowledge on the Darkstalkers series and can actually make claims on it. 🙂

It was directly stated he took a more limiting form. He was limited. As in, not his full strength. You can try to dodge this factual piece of information like the worthless pile of shit you are, it does not make it any less true.

State? He is able to traverse the universe and in merely 200,000,000 years time has added enough planets to his collection to make his own private galaxy. Said galaxy is what he controls. He is able to shrink constellations from the Ursa Major and use it for combat(I cannot prove this yet, this is recent information I learned so I admit it should not be taken as totally true yet).

He is able to make himself corporeal. As we have clearly seen.

Hm, seems you are mistaken.

I can see your upset but unfortunaltey attacking someone or flaming them is not permited on this forum...so I will report you for this:

like the worthless pile of shit you are, it does not make it any less true.

Stop giving me fuel...

But ime sorry, taking a limiting form in a battle against the world does not mean he will stay it once Demitri is kicking his ass, apprently they had an actual battle so its not like it was quick and over, so either hes vastly unintelligent and cannot wield his power as quiclky as you like to think or his power was not enough in general, either way Demitri absorbed all of Pyrons power.

A galaxy does not have to be large...technically the Universe is not considered finite either so you cannot actually travel it by factual standards, which means the fictional universe of Pyrons exploration is based on its factual stated size in that fiction...which is?

Also stop being a hypocrite, according to you we need real feats, not logical conclusions...so speaking of how he moving throughout the universe without an actual speed is an unkown and not a real feat, for all you know he used a special power to move great distances similiar to teleportation...you cant prove it? then dont say it....

Able to make himself corporal when? ive not seen this when he is large...only when he is small...

Originally posted by Burning thought
But ime sorry, taking a limiting form in a battle against the world does not mean he will stay it once Demitri is kicking his ass, apprently they had an actual battle so its not like it was quick and over, so either hes vastly unintelligent and cannot wield his power as quiclky as you like to think or his power was not enough in general, either way Demitri absorbed all of Pyrons power.

A galaxy does not have to be large...technically the Universe is not considered finite either so you cannot actually travel it by factual standards, which means the fictional universe of Pyrons exploration is based on its factual stated size in that fiction...which is?

Also stop being a hypocrite, according to you we need real feats, not logical conclusions...so speaking of how he moving throughout the universe without an actual speed is an unkown and not a real feat, for all you know he used a special power to move great distances similiar to teleportation...you cant prove it? then dont say it....

Able to make himself corporal [b]when? ive not seen this when he is large...only when he is small... [/B]

Why the hell do you think the writers had him limit himself? For the sake of doing it? It is because they had to make Pyron job. Also, show me where it is stated Demitri absorbed all of Pyron's power. 🙂

You would have a point...If the size were not stated. 400,000 lightyears is what the orbital path is stated to be. Four times larger than the Milky Way. Also, now you're playing semantics, saying he traversed the universe is the simplest way to put it. Did I mean he literally went from one side of the universe to the next? No.

In UDON he moved from the "furthest reaches of the universe" to Earth in three years. Superluminal speeds. Shut up.

So he loses powers when he is larger? Your logic is shoddy. Prove he loses his powers while he is large.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Prove he used his full power against Demitri. 🙂

Why the hell do you think the writers had him limit himself? For the sake of doing it? It is because they had to make Pyron job. Also, show me where it is stated Demitri absorbed all of Pyron's power. 🙂

You would have a point...If the size were not stated. 400,000 lightyears is what the orbital path is stated to be. Four times larger than the Milky Way. Also, now you're playing semantics, saying he traversed the universe is the simplest way to put it. Did I mean he literally went from one side of the universe to the next? No.

In UDON he moved from the "furthest reaches of the universe" to Earth in three years. Superluminal speeds. Shut up.

So he loses powers when he is larger? Your logic is shoddy. Prove he loses his powers while he is large.

I dont have to, you would have to prove he did not use his full power

Its known fact that Demitri absorbed Pyrons power wally...ime not even going to try and answer this, if you want ot play "silly bugger" do it by yourself.

Weve had this little convo and a distance can be as long as its wants, intestines stretch over 7 meters in some people, which is far larger in width and height than any human being but still it fits...the length of this oribital range does not necesserily have to be as large as you think it does without breaking the fact its range is 400k lightyears

You dont know how big the DS universe is....it could be tiny...especially since as I said, the real size of the universe is unkown and is constantly expanding. Furthermore, your still asuming he used actual speed, not a special ability to pass long distance like teleportation.

I dont have to prove anything again...you have to prove he can do something while large that he has only done when small, infact while large ive not seen him move actual distance without being in his fetal position which is not seen in his smaller size. Infact hes done very little in his large size in the way of actual powers.

Has Nozmordu frozen time solid while in Warcraft 3/FT or WoW?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Has Nozmordu frozen time solid while in Warcraft 3/FT or WoW?

Noz never shows up or is even mentioned in Warcraft3 or TFT and is only briefly shown in WoW.

So by the rules it seems by Games VS KMC, Kain stomps Nozmordu quite handily....

Originally posted by Burning thought
So by the rules it seems by Games VS KMC, Kain stomps Nozmordu quite handily....

Going strictly by the rules, Noz is featless/powerless.

Exactley lol....."sigh"

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Going strictly by the rules, Noz is featless/powerless.

Strictly by the rules? Nozdormu strictly according to the game can time travel, rip people out of time, be ethereal, conceal presence (This assuming the Bronze flight can ever sense him) and flight (Obvious)

Chances are that he also has the power to either grant time powers, create life or convert powers. This is not certain and will probably be made clear in WoW at a later date.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Strictly by the rules? Nozdormu strictly according to the game can time travel, rip people out of time, be ethereal, conceal presence (This assuming the Bronze flight can ever sense him) and flight (Obvious)

Chances are that he also has the power to either grant time powers, create life or convert powers. This is not certain and will probably be made clear in WoW at a later date.

Ohoho and she throws down!

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Strictly by the rules? Nozdormu strictly according to the game can time travel, rip people out of time, be ethereal, conceal presence (This assuming the Bronze flight can ever sense him) and flight (Obvious)

Chances are that he also has the power to either grant time powers, create life or convert powers. This is not certain and will probably be made clear in WoW at a later date.

I don't remember this being stated in any of the games.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I don't remember this being stated in any of the games.

Try World of Warcraft. Northrend. Wyrmrest Temple. Chronormu. I'd get you a video if I had WoW.

You'll either have to trust me, or not. I can't prove it to the extent that KMC expect of people.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Try World of Warcraft. Northrend. Wyrmrest Temple. Chronormu. I'd get you a video if I had WoW.

You'll either have to trust me, or not. I can't prove it to the extent that KMC expect of people.

Oh, you mean Chromie's quests on Wyrmrest? I've done some time ago. At the end of the chain, you could see a transparent Nozdormu just hovering there for some time.

Maybe I should have read the quests more carefully. Gonna check out WoWhead tomorrow.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Oh, you mean Chromie's quests on Wyrmrest? I've done some time ago. At the end of the chain, you could see a transparent Nozdormu just hovering there for some time.

Maybe I should have read the quests more carefully. Gonna check out WoWhead tomorrow.

Although if we want to be technical, Nozdormu can do anything any other Bronze dragon can, because their powers is a racial power and not a power attained and mastered by individuals.

This would be the same as: Imagine a Vampire videogame. All the vampires in the videogame can suck blood, and you are a vampire of the same family. Your character has not sucked any blood for the duration of the game, although the rest of the family has. By default, your vampire has the capability even though he doesn't use it.

Rumors also has it, that Nozdormu being abscent in World of Warcraft is because he was working out outside time and space holding existance together (See War of the Ancients)

I CHANGE MEH ANSWER ON THIS THREAD!

Kain wins from the start without having to lift a finger 👀

Technically, so does Nozdormu

Nope, a fight ends when one side is dead or defeated, therefore Nozdormu does not even have the chance to make a move. Kain has already won, thread over! muhahahahhaa

Wow, I'm seeing some contradictions.