Originally posted by Digi
He's broken out of Inerton, DC's adamantium.😐
Webs would be a joke. Pete goes down, and hard.
KK 10/10
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm not saying that Spidey takes this by any stretch of the imagination, but his webbing really isn't comparable with Inerton is it? I don't know the feat you're talking about so I can't say for sure, but if he did one of his "moves" that require some kind of specific motion/action then shouldn't Spidey's web should be fine since KK doesn't have the raw power to move?
here is the feat he is speaking of.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/LSuperboyLSH231-28.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/LSuperboyLSH231-30.jpg
Originally posted by Prep-Man
here is the feat he is speaking of.http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/LSuperboyLSH231-28.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/LSuperboyLSH231-30.jpg
Originally posted by darthgoober
Well that definitely supports the argument that he could break out of webbing. But do you think it would have worked if his whole body was bound(serious question)? Like, do you think he could have shattered a block of it if he was trapped inside? I only ask because if Spidey just covered the guy in webbing, it seems like even if KK broke his arms free and started "chopping" through the webbing it would still leave him relatively immobile and possibly give Spidey a free shot.
possibly, but catching val is the hard part. which i don't see peter doing.
aside from that, this would be current KK in this battle and i find him only being human regardless of how many MA skills he has learned would not grant him the strength in the 80 ton range to rip apart webbing so easily. not saying the inertron feat wasnt impressive but the current KK seems to have bn somewhat scaled back in his feats.
i aslo think if spidey can momentarily contain KK in his webbing it would be considered a win for spidey seeing as the scan did show KK being contained for a reasonable amount of time before he broke loose.
also spidey would lose horribly if he decided to stand his ground and fight KK like he did with cap. aside from that he would more then likely use his surroundings to even out the fight.
i say in a fight against KK spidey would lose the first 2 or 3 fights before he realized the best way to beat kk is to stop holding back and use his spider powers/ agility. the last 7 fights i think spidey would take them.
I think what Goober is trying to say about webbing vs inerton is that a LOT of martial artists can break bricks with their hands. But try and let them break a long piece of very elastic material and they'll fail every single time.
He does make a point. Unless KK has anything sharp or has super strength, the webbing would hold him. Then again, SM's webbing has always had inconsistent showings. /shrug.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
aside from that, this would be current KK in this battle and i find him only being human regardless of how many MA skills he has learned would not grant him the strength in the 80 ton range to rip apart webbing so easily. not saying the inertron feat wasnt impressive but the current KK seems to have bn somewhat scaled back in his feats.i aslo think if spidey can momentarily contain KK in his webbing it would be considered a win for spidey seeing as the scan did show KK being contained for a reasonable amount of time before he broke loose.
also spidey would lose horribly if he decided to stand his ground and fight KK like he did with cap. aside from that he would more then likely use his surroundings to even out the fight.
i say in a fight against KK spidey would lose the first 2 or 3 fights before he realized the best way to beat kk is to stop holding back and use his spider powers/ agility. the last 7 fights i think spidey would take them.
current val literally killed a close to top tier alien (imo), while breaking his fists. he can hang with metas easily.
here is karate kid dancing around monel's attacks.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/LSH111-14.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/LSH111-18.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/LSH111-19.jpg
3boot val sparring with Ultraboy
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/Untitled-Scanned-11.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/Untitled-Scanned-12.jpg
clearing 5 meters of ice.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/Untitled-Scanned-13.jpg
owning colossal boy
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/silicondream/Untitled-Scanned-25.jpg
their are also numerous of scans of spidey having similar feats and outdoing him in a lot of KK's limited showings, KK is an impressive fighter but he is still only human who was easily thrown by ultra boy and KK had to focus and concentrate to punch the ice block. KK isnt going to get the same opportunity in this fight. also many other ppl have similar abilities and skills on the same lvl of karate kid.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
their are also numerous of scans of spidey having similar feats and outdoing him in a lot of KK's limited showings, KK is an impressive fighter but he is still only human who was easily thrown by ultra boy and KK had to focus and concentrate to punch the ice block. KK isnt going to get the same opportunity in this fight. also many other ppl have similar abilities and skills on the same lvl of karate kid.
yes, but the point i was trying to show with the scans is that peter won't be tagging val anytime soon. if he can dodge near ftl energy projection, then peter won't do much better. spiderman hasn't gone toe to toe with a solid top tier and punking him like Val just did. val has better feats.
i understand but i think that both spidey and KK are both agile although i give the nod to spidey due to his physiology and his spider sense that will help him avoid attacks and similar to KK spidey has decades of blocking dodging laser, lightning and cosmic blast that also travel FTL.... i just think this fight is by far closer then some ppl think spidey has also taken high tier bricks and has punked them just like KK difference being spidey's style of fighting isnt to stand his ground but use webbing, terrain and jokes while he does it.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i understand but i think that both spidey and KK are both agile although i give the nod to spidey due to his physiology and his spider sense that will help him avoid attacks and similar to KK spidey has decades of blocking dodging laser, lightning and cosmic blast that also travel FTL.... i just think this fight is by far closer then some ppl think spidey has also taken high tier bricks and has punked them just like KK difference being spidey's style of fighting isnt to stand his ground but use webbing, terrain and jokes while he does it.
i don't think it's close at all. spiderman has troubles with ma's way below val's level. while val has pretty much mastered ALL weapons AND ma's. plus super karate exotic powers.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
current Val the one that fought bats, supergirl and all the modern scans you posted.
2 val's fought batman. silver age and 3boot.
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