Zant vs. Sephiroth

Started by SuperLuigi5 pages

i just beat zant with the ordon sword. there for sephiroth can and will kill this wanna be twilight king.
oh and sephiroth's will is strong than zant's entire being. ganondorf never gave the chameleon all his power just enough to beat midna. play the game learn how gay zant is and learn how he couldnt hurt a fly

He housed his power within Ganon. Unless he left the majority of it in the Twilight Realm, which he didn't, Zant has the power of Ganon, and stomps Sephiroth into the dirt.

after zant helped ganon escape the twilight realm. ganon took his power back because midna was an imp and no longer a threat to zant's rule.

Zant didn't lose Ganon's power until Link beat him.

which he did with the ordon sword

Not canon.

if zant could only be killed by the master sword then he wouldnt have gotten damaged. fight ganondorf with the ordon sword and see if it works.

That argument has been used before. And it is outweighed by numerous statements that Ganondorf can only be defeated using the Master Sword.

Same goes for Zant, because an optional choice =/= canon.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Zant was not killed by anyone's hair.

Midna killed Zant with her "hair".


Zant is not Ganon. That's good, you can tell the difference between names. But Ganon is QUOTED as saying "I will house my Power within' you."

That wasn't all of his power. Just a part of it.


Sephiroth's sword is laughable.

Seeing that it can cut through steel and can only be wielded by one, it's not a joke. Show me a time when the Master Sword could cut through metal.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Zant was unaffected by Midna's hair, he was fine immediately after she attacked him 😬 This was the part in the game where it was revealed Ganon was powering Zant.

How did Zant die then?

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06

4. Zant really doesn't even need a weapon. That's why I say big whoop.

But Zant did use one and it was nothing impressive


5. Neither does Seph.

Yes he does. It's called Meteor.


6. Controlling Twilight (the 'essence' of another entire dimension) on an equal whim (given how easily he can overpower Hyrule's guardian dieties)

OK


7. Zant was still empowered by Ganon, which counts for more or less as much until Ganon returned to the Light World (which was presumably when the castle was enveloped by a barrier). Plot device is the only thing that ever even FAZED him, as had been stated. That "hair" would probably do worse to Seph than it did to Zant, and Ganon easily defeated it at full power.

Sephiroth survived a stab from the Buster Sword before being thrown into a pit (during the Nibelheim incident). Zant lost his power after his defeat and stayed dead. Sephiroth would slice up Midna's hair.

another "Sephiroth vs Link" thread in disguise.

By the looks of it, more of a Sephiroth vs Ganon, and Meteor cannot destroy planets, it was only the combination of meteor AND holy that was going to destroy the planet.

Also dont evne mention Sephiroths spells, their too slow to cast.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Zant was killed by Midna's "hair"

Zant was finished off by a part of a power that the Gods had demanded be sealed away.

But Zant did use one and it was nothing impressive

Bigger testament to his instability than his need for them. That, and he spent the entire last fight teleporting in frenzy only losing a beat if you hit him, and that's just gameplay.

Yes he does. It's called Meteor.

First off, that's the Black Materia; one use and it was gone. Pure plot device, not a shred of consistency. Secondly it was stated that the intent was to injure the planet so as to call out enough of the Lifestream for Seph to absorb and become a God, not outright destroy the Planet, because the last time Meteor hit (Jenova's arrival), it made a big crater.

Sephiroth survived a stab from the Buster Sword before being thrown into a pit (during the Nibelheim incident). Zant lost his power after his defeat and stayed dead. Sephiroth would slice up Midna's hair.

Zant's got more resources than the Buster Sword and a pit to the core of the earth. It would hold more to the topic if this were Crisis Core Sephiroth. Midna with the Fused Shadows did to Ganondorf's Twilight barrier what it took a full-powered Junon Cannon to do to Sephiroth's barrier.

Uh, Sin? Ganon said "I will house my power within you." Not "I will house part of my power within you."

Zant didn't die after Midna hair crushed him at all... It's revealed at that point Zant cannot die as long as Ganon is still powering him... Remember?

Originally posted by Burning thought
By the looks of it, more of a Sephiroth vs Ganon, and Meteor cannot destroy planets, it was only the combination of meteor AND holy that was going to destroy the planet.

Also dont evne mention Sephiroths spells, their too slow to cast.

Sephiroth's meteor was gonna wipe out all life on the planet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ7DqF5WUMI

Ok, so this is a bit exaggerated since Sephiroth only wanted to leave a huge hurt on the planet so he can harvest its "pain".

The only spell of Sephiroth's that is slow is Meteor which takes two weeks to do the damage.

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
Zant was finished off by a part of a power that the Gods had demanded be sealed away.

According to the Zelda wiki, Midna did kill Vant (though it was by using some Fused Shadow power). It also says that he only had a fraction of Ganon's power.

Zant's got more resources than the Buster Sword and a pit to the core of the earth. It would hold more to the topic if this were Crisis Core Sephiroth.

If this was Crisis Core Sephiroth, he would lose since he had not gotten his hands on Jenova yet.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Uh, Sin? Ganon said "I will house my power within you." Not "I will house part of my power within you."

He didn't say all of it. Also, the game reveals that he only had a fragment. If he had all of Ganon's power, why did he need reviving?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Zant didn't die after Midna hair crushed him at all... It's revealed at that point Zant [b]cannot die as long as Ganon is still powering him... Remember? [/B]

I remember Zant being crushed by Midna. Didn't Ganon say that he wasn't going to bother reviving him?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Sephiroth's meteor was gonna wipe out all life on the planet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ7DqF5WUMI

Ok, so this is a bit exaggerated since Sephiroth only wanted to leave a huge hurt on the planet so he can harvest its "pain".

The only spell of Sephiroth's that is slow is Meteor which takes two weeks to do the damage.

According to the Zelda wiki, Midna did kill Vant (though it was by using some Fused Shadow power). It also says that he only had a fraction of Ganon's power.

If this was Crisis Core Sephiroth, he would lose since he had not gotten his hands on Jenova yet.

He didn't say all of it. Also, the game reveals that he only had a fragment. If he had all of Ganon's power, why did he need reviving?

I remember Zant being crushed by Midna. Didn't Ganon say that he wasn't going to bother reviving him?

-First off you can keep real-world physics the freck out of this debate of magic, darkness-empowered creatures, extraterrestrial biomonsters, and ethereal life force, thanks. Next, the planet in FFVII would have lost all life only because he would have absorbed the lifestream that gathered from the wound of the planet to achieve supremecy. As I'm sure you know, that's how the northern crater was created milennia ago by Jenova with Meteor, so the spell is not a planet buster in and of itself. That's not outright planet busting in the long run, and as I said, Black Materia is an inconsistent one-timer item.

-Now normally, someone would probably end up with an expression like the one on my avatar at mention of a Wiki, but I'm not so uptight over it. But that what you said is exactly my point, Midna used the power of the Fused Shadow to finish off Zant (which she STATES in horrified fashion mind you). Her hair was just her means of using a glimpse of it. Again, she did with the Fused Shadows what it took the Junon Cannon to do to Seph's barrier.

-I don't think anyone's arguing with that.

-Doesn't really matter based on feats. If anything, it speaks more for the likelihood that, like the case with Sephiroth, we've yet to see the full extent of Ganon's power too.

-His dialogue implies that it was at least his physical body that was destroyed, and he ultimately died for good after Ganon's defeat at TP's end. Zant's little neck snap in that vision is commonly debated, but I think what can be agreed upon is that with Ganon defeated, Zant wasn't going to be revived. Also no, Ganon never made any mention of bothering with reviving Zant.