Originally posted by dadudemonI agree with you on Naruto,I'm just probably basing the action off the Iron Man movie.
No. Ironman is lots of action.My brother was obsessed with Ironman, when were kids. I read all of his Ironman comics. It had more than enough action to keep me reading it.
Besides, if you like Naruto, you don't like that much action. Naruto is 99% talk, 1% action. There's even tons of talking during fights!
If you think I'm exaggerating with my numbers, I'm not. In fact, I may have low balled it. Count how many panels have action and count how many panels have talking or other things. I'm sure you'll come up with something greater than 1 to 99.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4Q7xgxDJh4
trailer for iron man anime..
Changed my mind about this, Lord no! Pleez NO! It's great that Marvel wants to step into anime and they should make original anime properties. I do not want to see an anime Spider Man, Iron Man or X-Men. They will RUIN American icons. I don't want to see my Marvel Super Heros anime-ized", at all...Comics have always been better the manga by a long shot, imo, and I want things to remain that way.
Originally posted by super pr*xy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4Q7xgxDJh4trailer for iron man anime..
NOOOOOOOOoooooooo!!!!
Seriously, it looks cool, although the dude with the white hair is exactly what I did not wanna see in an Iron Man animation. I just hope MARVEL is in charge of the story, if not....
Originally posted by me
NOOOOOOOoooooooo!!!!
comic books are shit compared to manga imo because the story suffers because its not allowed to end. characters arent allowed to stay dead because if they die and their series ends thats less money to be had, so death has no consequences in the universe which takes the thrill out of everything imo. its like "OH MAN CAPTAIN AMERICA VS IRON MAN WHO WILL SURVIVE??!!?" who cares? theyre both popular characters if either die theyll be back in a few years max, and sure enough they will eventually be friends again and will most likely even be on the same team.
people dont die, they dont age (how long has iron man been around? since the 60's-70's? how come he isnt in like his 50's by now?), the character designs are more about catering to the demographics basic wants (every male superhero is ultra buff unless its apart of their gimmick to not be buff like spiderman or the blob, all the female superheroes have huge breasts and wear either almost nothing or skin tight clothing), etc.
comics are all about fan service which limits the potential of the story and writing, imo. manga doesnt suffer from that limitation. look at naruto. the two main characters, naruto and sasuke, are two of the most unpopular characters at the moment, but kishimoto doesnt even give a heck. its his story and hes going to tell it the way he wants it be told, not just what the fans want, and as a result the story is very good, imo.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
im obviously talking about comics like marvel and dc not graphic novels which is what watchmen is 🙄
Which Watchmen comes under the DC label 🙄
you missed my point
Ummm no i did'nt
your saying comics (American ones) all are about fan service which limits the potenital of the story and i know what fan service is and Manga has it far share of it.
Originally posted by Kazenji
Which Watchmen comes under the DC label 🙄
watchmen is a graphic novel doesnt matter who licensed it.
and if it wasnt so what? thats one comic out of how many hundreds? the majority of people who read comics didnt even know what watchmen was until two years ago, but you can ask anyone and theyll know who superman is and theyll know about his comic series; which is the kind im talking about.
Ummm no i did'ntyour saying comics (American ones) all are about fan service which limits the potenital of the story and i know what fan service is and Manga has it far share of it. [/B]
im saying that American comic series tend to get so caught up with fan service that it limits the quality of plot progression, which doesnt happen in manga; i did not say that manga doesnt have fan service period. of course there is fan service but when was the last time nearly every guy in a manga series was completely toned with a six pack and had great genetics and was generally very handsome? or every girl had big breasts and wears a tight leather outfit? when was the last time you read a manga that after twenty years none of its characters ever died or got old? when was the last time you read a manga where the author had character A kill character B, only to have character B come back next year with some hoaky time travel/dimensional rift/heave hell scheme?
im sure you can think of plenty of examples for all the questions i asked, but they will always be exceptions to the rule not the rule. the reason for this is is because these type of story faults are not commonplace in manga, but it is common in american comic book series. a manga is like making a movie: a movie has a beginning, and an end, and so the characters and story has to be written in a way that accepts the fact that it will end eventually. american comic book series' are written like a sitcom: the characters are written so that they can always come back and there can always be another adventure if the characters gets popular enough or he/she is needed for another story arc. as such the character doesnt change.
look at superman. 50 years from now where will batman be? he'll still be in his mid/late thirties or however old he is, still trying to cleanse gotham of crime. the joker will still be around screwing with him. same with superman, and the JLA. 50 years from now there will still be a bunch of idiot criminals that think that superman who can move faster than light will be unable to deal with their machine guns and catch their get-a-way cars. even after a hundred years of comic book events and stories superman will still be a boy scout who rarely ever kills and batman will still think its against his morals to kill even though the people he leaves alive end up killing innocent people anyway. there will be no character development.
do you know why that is? fan service. because 50 years from now if comics are still popular, teenagers and young men will pay money to see a man in his mid-thirties with a six pack kick ass, even if hes been doing it for the last hundred years. theyre only 20 years old they dont care that that batman should have died of old age by now; and they dont care that after seeing joker kill thousands of people batman should have ****ing killed him by now. they dont want to see the heroes hang up their capes and say that theyve finally achieved their goal. so marvel and dc wont show it to them unless its in the form of a "what if" or something.
manga is the opposite. 50 years from now naruto and bleach will be over. either naruto will have achieved his goal of becoming hokage and bringing sasuke back to the light, or he will have failed. the end. 50 years from now Aizen will either be dead or he will have won. the end. that is what is called storyline progression. if a character dies at the end of a manga then he is simply dead. if a character becomes ultra powerful and no one in the manga can beat him then that is simply what is. in american comics if a character gets to powerful that no one can possibly challenge him they have a crisis that retcons 50 years of comic book history...
now maybe you prefer marvel and dc's method of saying that X event will "CHANGE EVERYTHING", without it actually changing anything because ten years down the road it'll be like the event never happened. personally i prefer linear storylines that have a beggining and an end.
comics have zero canon material which is what i dont like....most comics always contradict with each other...the hulk went to that planet and became king....but yet there are still comics coming out with him on earth and spiderman has been rewritten so many times its ridiculous ..... ppl wonder why the movies always suck its because when it comes to comics there is no canon which gives the script writers the ability to mess stuff up
Originally posted by yungz22😛 That's because there was a story of him coming back from that planet. There isn't a lot of contradiction when it comes to that.
comics have zero canon material which is what i dont like....most comics always contradict with each other...the hulk went to that planet and became king....but yet there are still comics coming out with him on earth
Though yea because there are so many writers who interpret the characters different comics have a lot of contradiction. Some manga may have a few things that get forgotten throughout the years but nothing as big as what comics do.
Originally posted by Kento
😛 That's because there was a story of him coming back from that planet. There isn't a lot of contradiction when it comes to that.Though yea because there are so many writers who interpret the characters different comics have a lot of contradiction. Some manga may have a few things that get forgotten throughout the years but nothing as big as what comics do.
I have to agree with most of what's said here about comic's canon and story. It gets pretty stupid alot of the time, I haven't bought a single comic in over a year cuz I don't know what's going on or where to start and most of the time, it gets confusing. But with that said, comics are still far better to me. It's because of moments and images like these...
and many others like it that makes comics deeper, more relatable and more relevant than any manga can ever hope to be. Manga is good, REALLY good, but American comics are just...inspirational. Besides, I'm not much of a weeaboo so I prefer good ol'American story tellin' any way.
Wow! I didn't know comics vs manga was such a serious debate. In some cases American comics seem to have more badass characters and more graphic images(this is highly debatable). However manga series are more like fables that can be told over again but the story itself can't be changed unlike American comic series. Along with that, manga series tend to limit their characters more which make some fight scenes more believable unlike a certain hero who is put above even superhero limits.( take a guess at to whom I'm talking about)
So all in all, its a matter of preference at to which is better; however manga series do tend to have better fights in my opinion.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
im obviously talking about comics like marvel and dc not graphic novels which is what watchmen is 🙄
Watchmen is COMIC book later compiled into a graphic novel. It was literally, a twelve issues comic book. Later, it was put together into a graphic novel...to...get this, make more money. (So, yeah, I agree with pretty much everything you said. I just like to get facts straight.)
BTW, I read the 12 issued comic book, not the later-released graphic novel. Thank goodness for older uncles, right? 😄
Anywho, stop the whining, you American Comic book fans. They'll probably be better as animes, anyway.
Of note: I do NOT like Wolverine's anime look. It's horrible and stupid. Wolverine is supposed to be a very thick, agile, hairy, short dude. He was none of those in the preview. 😐