It was in Friday part 8 Jason takes Manhatton.
And it was super corrosive toxic waste... I mean if someone had an entire cylo of acid to dump on jason it would be worth consideration. As it stands... eeeehhhhhhrrr not so much...
Anyways. I don't see how Joker Gas is going to work even if Joker DID manage to make it in Arkham, which is a ridiculous idea to begin with. Jason doesn't respirate or circulate, he's a zombie.
On the other hand, the movies use plenty of PIS to get him out of the way regardless... come to think of it Jason got downed by those drugs on Freddy vs. Jason... doesn't really make sense.
Honestly I'm kind of amazed that almost the entire debate has defaulted back to the classic KMC strength factor BS.
Look when it comes to Jason, the guy has ripped people limb from limb, shoved faces through steel, folded people in half like lawnchairs, put his machete through massive blast doors, punched down steel doors with his fists, thrown people 30 feet through the air with one hand, knocked people 20 feet across the ground hitting with massive force with one casual swipe of his machette, and if Freddy's nightmare was any indication was able to topple a massive still off of him while he was laying on his back.
There's really no strength advantage when it comes to Jason vs. Croc or Bane. Speed? There you have an argument to make against Voorhees, but not strength, that's for damned sure.
It's amazing though that no one's cared to bring up the more supernatural aspects of Jason's career or his quasi mystical abilities in hunting down his prey.
Teleportation, nightmarish illusions in his victims, actual regeneration, Black-Cat like luck of coincidence, and his ability to body swap.
Jason's supernatural prowess are ghostly in scope.
Hell the only times his body has been completely compromised he body swapped on one occasion, and on the other, his luck powers kicked in and turned on a broken computer system to help reassemble what was left of his ass.
This power also displayed in part 6 when a metal rod shoved in Jason's chest is hit by haphazardly hit by lightening immediately after being stabbed with it, in part 7 when Tina's TK locks in on Jason from half a camp away awakening him, in part 8 when an anchor just happens to hit a powerline awakening him again.
There's multiple examples of Jason's prey having mass hallucinations during a period when Jason is stalking them AND afterwards.
And when it comes to his stealth, he's like a friggin JTF commando, he's dropped 2 stories without making a sound or alerting his victims. He's able to travel through the woods unheard even with his large lumbering size, has snuck up on military, and telepaths.
He also was able to take out a massive monster hologram with nearly no effort at all.
The only people who have a chance of beating Jason in an out and out fight are Bane and Croc as everyone already knows... but unlike either of them, Jason can afford to take anything... I repeat ANYTHING they dish out, and he doesn't even remotely feel pain... and it's only really a matter of time before he lands one crippling, lethal, or otherwise disabling blow.
Given the scenario, and that fact that even if these Rogues could get past Jason in a 1on1, they have nowhere to run away TO.... the inmates here have really no chance of surviving this encounter at all. Jason decimates here and then goes on his merry.
Originally posted by jinzinJoker could easily make buckets of toxic waste being a genius in the field of chemistry and all.
It was in Friday part 8 Jason takes Manhatton.And it was super corrosive toxic waste... I mean if someone had an entire cylo of acid to dump on jason it would be worth consideration. As it stands... eeeehhhhhhrrr not so much...
Anyways. I don't see how Joker Gas is going to work even if Joker DID manage to make it in Arkham, which is a ridiculous idea to begin with. Jason doesn't respirate or circulate, he's a zombie.
On the other hand, the movies use plenty of PIS to get him out of the way regardless... come to think of it Jason got downed by those drugs on Freddy vs. Jason... doesn't really make sense.
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Yeah, and just how many would affect Jason? If the Joker uses gases, his fellow inmates would die long before Jason does.That plan sounds like it would kill everyone but Jason.
And it is PIS. Really, so the Green Lanterns with their unimaginable power had a hell of a time with Parallax but some gas the Joker threw together puts him down? That doesn't sound like PIS to you?
Next time Galactus is in town, Reed Richards should just throw together some special tear-gas.
read my post again i said the gas working on parallax was PIS. My point is that it worked on others as well that are beyound Jason.
the boiler with gas in it would blow jason to little bits.
quite a few of the chemcals would affect Jason if Joker was mixing them. haven't you ever read any joker comics. also joker wouldn't care if it killed everyone in Arkam once again do you know who joker is.
Originally posted by jinzin
Honestly I'm kind of amazed that almost the entire debate has defaulted back to the classic KMC strength factor BS.Look when it comes to Jason, the guy has ripped people limb from limb, shoved faces through steel, folded people in half like lawnchairs, put his machete through massive blast doors, punched down steel doors with his fists, thrown people 30 feet through the air with one hand, knocked people 20 feet across the ground hitting with massive force with one casual swipe of his machette, and if Freddy's nightmare was any indication was able to topple a massive still off of him while he was laying on his back.
There's really no strength advantage when it comes to Jason vs. Croc or Bane. Speed? There you have an argument to make against Voorhees, but not strength, that's for damned sure.
It's amazing though that no one's cared to bring up the more supernatural aspects of Jason's career or his quasi mystical abilities in hunting down his prey.
Teleportation, nightmarish illusions in his victims, actual regeneration, Black-Cat like luck of coincidence, and his ability to body swap.
Jason's supernatural prowess are ghostly in scope.
Hell the only times his body has been completely compromised he body swapped on one occasion, and on the other, his luck powers kicked in and turned on a broken computer system to help reassemble what was left of his ass.
This power also displayed in part 6 when a metal rod shoved in Jason's chest is hit by haphazardly hit by lightening immediately after being stabbed with it, in part 7 when Tina's TK locks in on Jason from half a camp away awakening him, in part 8 when an anchor just happens to hit a powerline awakening him again.
There's multiple examples of Jason's prey having mass hallucinations during a period when Jason is stalking them AND afterwards.
And when it comes to his stealth, he's like a friggin JTF commando, he's dropped 2 stories without making a sound or alerting his victims. He's able to travel through the woods unheard even with his large lumbering size, has snuck up on military, and telepaths.
He also was able to take out a massive monster hologram with nearly no effort at all.
The only people who have a chance of beating Jason in an out and out fight are Bane and Croc as everyone already knows... but unlike either of them, Jason can afford to take anything... I repeat ANYTHING they dish out, and he doesn't even remotely feel pain... and it's only really a matter of time before he lands one crippling, lethal, or otherwise disabling blow.
Given the scenario, and that fact that even if these Rogues could get past Jason in a 1on1, they have nowhere to run away TO.... the inmates here have really no chance of surviving this encounter at all. Jason decimates here and then goes on his merry.
I agree with almost everything your saying but i think you are underestmating smily. One you said that it would be hard to assume that joker could either make it their or have it their already. This is false Joker has and multiple ocastions stashed tons of weapons and his gas there. Like when Joker thought he was going to die and gased the inmates with smily at arkam. So on panel proff would beg to differ.
and the potancy of the gas has shown to affect people stronger then Jason.
two it would seem like you see this as a one on one match but several several times the Inmates have teamed up. I agree that Bane or Killer croc would have a hard time and are pretty much equal to Jason in strength. But together fighting for their lives, Jason is not too much of a problem.
they might not be able to put Jason down for good but they are will sure be able to take him down for a while.
so i just remember that mouth from goonies totaly owned Jason with a machite upside the head. so all the Inmates need to do is shave their heads and pretend they are Jason when he was an ugly kid and when Jason is wondering why their are so many of himself anybody can just machite him upside the head. Jason was gone for two movies after that.
Originally posted by jasofisc
so i just remember that mouth from goonies totaly owned Jason with a machite upside the head. so all the Inmates need to do is shave their heads and pretend they are Jason when he was an ugly kid and when Jason is wondering why their are so many of himself anybody can just machite him upside the head. Jason was gone for two movies after that.
right and then he was a Zombie who could take more damage than ever before 🙂 (not saying that he would win, not really sure anymore)
and overall I think the fact that horror Icons get defeated by stupid Teenagers is more somethin like PIS in Horrormovies, imagine what would happen if it would be turned off...
Originally posted by jinzin
Honestly I'm kind of amazed that almost the entire debate has defaulted back to the classic KMC strength factor BS.Look when it comes to Jason, the guy has ripped people limb from limb, shoved faces through steel, folded people in half like lawnchairs, put his machete through massive blast doors, punched down steel doors with his fists, thrown people 30 feet through the air with one hand, knocked people 20 feet across the ground hitting with massive force with one casual swipe of his machette, and if Freddy's nightmare was any indication was able to topple a massive still off of him while he was laying on his back.
There's really no strength advantage when it comes to Jason vs. Croc or Bane. Speed? There you have an argument to make against Voorhees, but not strength, that's for damned sure.
It's amazing though that no one's cared to bring up the more supernatural aspects of Jason's career or his quasi mystical abilities in hunting down his prey.
Teleportation, nightmarish illusions in his victims, actual regeneration, Black-Cat like luck of coincidence, and his ability to body swap.
Jason's supernatural prowess are ghostly in scope.
Hell the only times his body has been completely compromised he body swapped on one occasion, and on the other, his luck powers kicked in and turned on a broken computer system to help reassemble what was left of his ass.
This power also displayed in part 6 when a metal rod shoved in Jason's chest is hit by haphazardly hit by lightening immediately after being stabbed with it, in part 7 when Tina's TK locks in on Jason from half a camp away awakening him, in part 8 when an anchor just happens to hit a powerline awakening him again.
There's multiple examples of Jason's prey having mass hallucinations during a period when Jason is stalking them AND afterwards.
And when it comes to his stealth, he's like a friggin JTF commando, he's dropped 2 stories without making a sound or alerting his victims. He's able to travel through the woods unheard even with his large lumbering size, has snuck up on military, and telepaths.
He also was able to take out a massive monster hologram with nearly no effort at all.
The only people who have a chance of beating Jason in an out and out fight are Bane and Croc as everyone already knows... but unlike either of them, Jason can afford to take anything... I repeat ANYTHING they dish out, and he doesn't even remotely feel pain... and it's only really a matter of time before he lands one crippling, lethal, or otherwise disabling blow.
Given the scenario, and that fact that even if these Rogues could get past Jason in a 1on1, they have nowhere to run away TO.... the inmates here have really no chance of surviving this encounter at all. Jason decimates here and then goes on his merry.
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Originally posted by Parmaniac
right and then he was a Zombie who could take more damage than ever before 🙂 (not saying that he would win, not really sure anymore)and overall I think the fact that horror Icons get defeated by stupid Teenagers is more somethin like PIS in Horrormovies, imagine what would happen if it would be turned off...
jason was an unstoppable zombie then too my post was mainly satire. it still funny though that mouth from goonies beat his @$$.
Originally posted by jinzin
Look when it comes to Jason, the guy has ripped people limb from limb, shoved faces through steel, folded people in half like lawnchairs, put his machete through massive blast doors, punched down steel doors with his fists, thrown people 30 feet through the air with one hand, knocked people 20 feet across the ground hitting with massive force with one casual swipe of his machette, and if Freddy's nightmare was any indication was able to topple a massive still off of him while he was laying on his back.
Originally posted by jinzin
There's really no strength advantage when it comes to Jason vs. Croc or Bane. Speed? There you have an argument to make against Voorhees, but not strength, that's for damned sure.
In no way, shape or form, is Jason faster, agile, or more skilled than Killer Croc. Stronger maybe.
We're not even sure if the machete will penetrate Killer Croc's hide.
It's not like he's taking on a bunch of teenagers like in the movies or comics.
He's fighting against some of DC's BEST SUPERVILLAINS for Christ's sake!
They will use every resource they have if it came to a life-death situation.
Originally posted by jasofisc
I agree with almost everything your saying but i think you are underestmating smily. One you said that it would be hard to assume that joker could either make it their or have it their already. This is false Joker has and multiple ocastions stashed tons of weapons and his gas there. Like when Joker thought he was going to die and gased the inmates with smily at arkam. So on panel proff would beg to differ.
and the potancy of the gas has shown to affect people stronger then Jason.two it would seem like you see this as a one on one match but several several times the Inmates have teamed up. I agree that Bane or Killer croc would have a hard time and are pretty much equal to Jason in strength. But together fighting for their lives, Jason is not too much of a problem.
they might not be able to put Jason down for good but they are will sure be able to take him down for a while.
I'm viewing this as Jason being IN CHARACTER... The inmates have no idea what's going on when Jason gets there, who they're up against, WHAT they're up against, he already has several advantages with his supernatural powers and in EVERY F13 film save like 2? He takes people out one by one. This isn't news.
And that last statement is entirely the problem. Jason will, inevitably get back up or fix himself, or bodyswap if need be... He isn't home, he will not stop. People have survived against Jason by gettingaway from Crystal Lake after the encounter was over, that's not the case here... They can only stall the inevitable. He WILL kill everyone one of these guys... it's only a matter of time.
Originally posted by jasofisc
jason was an unstoppable zombie then too my post was mainly satire. it still funny though that mouth from goonies beat his @$$.
He was a a human being when Tommy took him out, and Tommy used Jason's CIS to his advantage. It's really the only reason he lived that long and got that close to begin with.
Originally posted by occultdestroyerUh... yeah.... I know. You're missing the point. I'm trying trying to make Jason out to be stronger... Just saying there's no strength advantage that goes to Croc or Bane.
Killer Croc can do most of that
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Ok. NOW you're overestimating Jason.In no way, shape or form, is Jason faster, agile, or more skilled than Killer Croc. Stronger maybe.
Skilled... erm I dunno... Bane's definitely more skilled in h2h fighting, but Jason's quite skilled in landing lethal one shots. It's hard to compare the two.
Originally posted by occultdestroyerI think it would.. others assume it wouldn't, it all comes down to preference. Though IF Jason couldn't manage to cut Croc's skin I'm sure he'd go for the eyes or mouth etc..... He's killed people in such fashion before.
We're not even sure if the machete will penetrate Killer Croc's hide.
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
It's not like he's taking on a bunch of teenagers like in the movies or comics.
He's fighting against some of DC's BEST SUPERVILLAINS for Christ's sake!
They will use every resource they have if it came to a life-death situation.
As someone already pointed out, Jason's had multiple encounters with other supernatural beings, military, telekenetics, police, and once more killed a massive monster hologram with ease.
His list of enemies is not limited to horny teens alone.
And, if these guys had notice, or prep or even a legitimate way of communicating with one another before shit started hitting the fan, I wouldn't think twice about them being able to contain and overcome Jason.. it's why I avoided this thread originally.. but given the scenario, Jason would likely kill half of them or more before people even began to realize what was happening... if you've seen a Jason film.. you know that's what he does.