cyclops vs wolverine(death)

Originally posted by Juk3n
it looks like it hits him full on, and he's wading through it, he's even got his arm up as if its protecting his face, also leading us to the conclusion it is hitting him. Not too mention all the terrain flying around..

Blind spot or not, that scan is a PIS scan

The blind spot is how it was explained, it is of course no way Deathverine could force his way the direct power of that blast.

Call it PIS if you will, I don`t care either way

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Wolverine is one of the best trackers on the planet.......cyclopes is not.

* you're arguing on #1 on this one? finding and engaging one another? i said it's Wolverine... it's more probable he would win, giving Cyke a slight chance... and that slight chance is a KO for Logan because if Cyke spots him, he's out...

* and yes, the "Death scan" is a PIS scan...

Originally posted by Battlehammer
4)? Wolverine a far better fighter

* true...

Originally posted by Battlehammer
and an expert on fighting blind folded.

* this i don't know... 😕

ppl should take terrain into account... it gives both of them an equal chance to win or lose. snow storm, packed trees and streams. use of terrain or lack of it can make it a major difference here...

i can see logan using stealth and i can see scott blasting the treeline.

i can see the weather screwing with logans senses and scotts line of sight.

the cold weather screwing with scotts body and logan using it as cover.. soooo many variables that should be taken into account.

Originally posted by peejayd

4. i think, Cyclops...

I think not.

Originally posted by jinzin
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Fighting Blind
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Wolverine remains highly battlefield effective even while blinded.
1. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4711/fightingblindfc4.jpg

Wolverine gets blinded by a sentinal’s chest piece, a short reference is made to his heightened sense of sight, Xavier directs his movements but after getting jolted Wolverine is left to fend for himself. He does well enough:
1. http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1770/blindsentinalpq2.jpg
2. http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8574/blindsentinal2ok4.jpg

Wolverine fights the telepathic Brass who has blended his scent with that of the room, all Wolverine has to go off of is his ability to barely hear Brass’s breathing, it’s enough:
Brass being trained and telepathic:
1. http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1364/brassfq0.jpg
The fight:
1. http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7295/hearsninjaub0.jpg
2. http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4937/hearsninja2ke7.jpg
3. http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1159/hearsninja3xf5.jpg
4. http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/1074/tepninnl8.jpg

Wolverine is able to fend off invisible assassins his senses picked up:
1. http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3029/invisicaptb2.jpg
2. http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9459/invisicap2uf8.jpg

Wolverine's left fighting blinded against Typhoid Mary and still manages to beat her down:
1. http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2839/typhoidmary1su6.jpg
2. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6604/typhoidmary2au1.jpg
3. http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8233/typhoidmary3xc0.jpg
4. http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7533/typhoidmary4dk6.jpg

1. 50/50 split logan has some skills but if Cyclops catches him then lose.
2. Cyclops
3. Wolverine
4. Wolverine

Maybe the powers of Death give Logan more different powers. Hulk as War had energy around his feet that allowed him to stop Juggernaut. It wasn't like War suddenly got heavy or strength was a huge part in that. Juggs could push an adamantium statue around forever, and it would never bend or buckle. It was the power of the celestials at work there.

So maybe that same power was at work in that scan with Death and Cyclops. Something else was at work other than Logans muscle.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Yes, it seemed like a wide spread optic blast. But I figured, with the visor, he could concentrate that energy into a more focused blast instead of it wasting it on things other than the target.

it doesn't work that way.

actually pretty sure that was one of the things that was pointed out about the visor for yrs aside from just containing his optic blast.
removing his visor would just cause his blast to give a less directed focused blast. his visor removal although impressive looking i believe loses much of its concentrated force and effectiveness.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
actually pretty sure that was one of the things that was pointed out about the visor for yrs aside from just containing his optic blast.
removing his visor would just cause his blast to give a less directed focused blast. his visor removal although impressive looking i believe loses much of its concentrated force and effectiveness.

you ever spray a water hose? turned the knobs setting and create a high pressure stream?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
you ever spray a water hose? turned the knobs setting and create a high pressure stream?

I know you didn't just compare Cyclops full optic blast to a garden hose....

..... right? 😬

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
hysterical

I know you didn't just compare Cyclops full blast to a garden hose....

..... right? 😬

Only Emma gets to do that...

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
actually pretty sure that was one of the things that was pointed out about the visor for yrs aside from just containing his optic blast.
removing his visor would just cause his blast to give a less directed focused blast. his visor removal although impressive looking i believe loses much of its concentrated force and effectiveness.

no offence, but it's not that way at all.

because his field of vision and blast are bigger than the slit in the visor, a decent portion of the blast is either going to be absorbed or reflected back by the ruby quartz lining.

while it's true that in the past it's been said that cyclops can go full power with his visor on, it's simply inconsistent with his powerset, and also contradicts the fact that on a couple of occasions, he felt forced to remove his visor to use all of his power (onslaught, the sentinel etc).

1. Cyclops.
2. Cyclops.
3. Wolverine.
4. Wolverine 7/10.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Found it.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The epic scan!! That was the death Wolverine that *some* people were saying wasn't amped at all when he was a Horseman? Either he was or that is an utterly ridiculous showing.

1. Armor.

2. There's a blind spot in his blast.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
1. Armor.

2. There's a blind spot in his blast.

Originally posted by peejayd
* you're arguing on #1 on this one? finding and engaging one another? i said it's Wolverine... it's more probable he would win, giving Cyke a slight chance... and that slight chance is a KO for Logan because if Cyke spots him, he's out...

* and yes, the "Death scan" is a PIS scan...

* true...

* this i don't know... 😕

yes wolverine has trained to fight blind. He an expert at it and has taken it to some good fighters while unable to see.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
My point was that he was enhanced, but some said he was just normal Wolverine, he took out a group of Xmen in that arc if I recall.

He was never phsycially enhanced. He was given weapons and psi blockers

Didn't Logan train Cyclops on how to fight blind?