Originally posted by Darth Martin
They lose horribly unless we count Dark Phoenix and Surfer which are not Earth based.Wait which Enterprise? Kirk's old one? The new Kirk's? Picard's "D" or "E"?
Picard with the Enterpise"E" is unfair. Could he possibly blow up Earth with a few quantum torpedoes?
Maybe if you read the post and not just the title eh?
And what did Dark Phoenix do that wasn't earth based? I haven't seen X2 so I don't know all her feats but the biggest thing she did in X3 was destroy Alcatraz...Something a single photon torpedo could do easily (and then some)
This is all going on the grounds that the Enterprise is in the atmosphere and not in orbit, where it could destroy the planet or target anyone with a torpedo or transporting into space.
-Really depends if the Enterprises' shielding could stop Phoenix's powers. Probably couldn't, as I think they're mind based.
-Magneto could seriously gimp the ship. Shields not being a factor to his magnetic powers?
-Nightcrawler TP'ing inside and kicking everyone's ass would be a great distraction.
-Xavier could mind-rape all except Data. Data can control the ship by himself and easily too.
Can't think of anyone else who would be a problem to the Enterprise.
Edit: I was thinking of only X-Men. Surfer could **** their shit up too.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
well her abilities by-pass all durability because she destroy things on an atomic level one atom at a time at just an accelerated pace.so that being said if she lives long enough to get in touch with the enterprise or its crew she could destroy the entire thing.
Any evidence of her doing something of that magnitude over a distance that equals what the enterprise can fire from (which, for the record, is around 100,000km or 62,000 miles or a quarter the distance to the moon)?
Originally posted by jaden101
Any evidence of her doing something of that magnitude over a distance that equals what the enterprise can fire from (which, for the record, is around 100,000km or 62,000 miles or a quarter the distance to the moon)?
hence "if she lives long enough to get in touch with the enterprise or its crew, she could destroy the entire thing."
i dont know if she can.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
hence "[b]if she lives long enough to get in touch with the enterprise or its crew, she could destroy the entire thing."i dont know if she can. [/B]
I'm talking about a matter of distance rather than time. I don't remember it being suggested that the longer she projects her power, the farther she can.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
He took a considerable amount of time to effect the bridge in X3. By that time Worf would have blown him up.
Magneto isn't soloing the Enterprise, so he could very well have the time to do something to it. Unless Worf is just going to know "hey, that guy, he's the one."
Magneto isn't much of a factor, the three biggest threats to the Enterprise and crew are Surfer, Phoenix and Xavier, especially if X has cerebro.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Even if Xavier had Cerebro, it takes him time to focus. The Enterprise is already orbiting Earth when they become aware of it.
In X2, he went from raping every mutant on the planet to raping every human on the planet in less than a minute, iirc, was a matter of seconds.
So unless the Enterprise has intel on were exactly Xavier/Cerebro are, the entire crew except for Data is getting mind-****ed. Which isn't much of a problem, as Data can solo-control the ship; do it better too.
Originally posted by Placidity
Surfer owns this shit up. Shields don't do shit. Surfer himself and all his attacks can phase through shields.Nightcrawler, Deadpool and Wraith can teleport themselves and other groundbased allies into the ship and start a party.
Don't know about that. How many times have we seen the ST crews analyze and then match the frequecies of enemy weapons/shields etc?...Stands to reason they'd be able to do to the surfer what the FF team did.
Originally posted by jaden101
Don't know about that. How many times have we seen the ST crews analyze and then match the frequecies of enemy weapons/shields etc?...Stands to reason they'd be able to do to the surfer what the FF team did.
But you forget, the F4 had Reed Richards and Von Doom, the greatest minds on Earth when they made that device.
Plus the only reason they knew to do that frequency stuff was because Doom analyzed Surfer channeling the energy from his board. The Star Trek folks won't get that opportunity.
Enterprise has Data and sensors way beyond anything Reeds has, so it isn't beyond reason they counter Surfer's ability to pass through the shielding or outright knock him off his board with an attack.
They could also potentially transport and leave him in stasis, effectively taking him out of the fight.