Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Why thank you. There's no point in bashing someone's opinion, when, truth be told, I don't really care about it either way. You may call it cowardly, I'll just call it apathy and laziness.
Then your apathy should have let you come to the conclusion that saying nothing is better. Better than saying you're going to say nothing.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriNot really. I answered a question, and by not saying anything after "Their opinions," I would have, in all likelihood, been asked another question to explain myself.
Then your apathy should have let you come to the conclusion that saying nothing is better. Better than saying you're going to say nothing.-AC
Originally posted by Ms.MarvelI said apathy and laziness to causing a stir. Or at least that's why I meant. When it comes down to it, I don't care enough to argue for my opinion since its about movies, its hard to justify someone else being wrong/right when its that subjective.
then why say this?that contradicts apathy. as you obviously cared enough to say something on the matter.
Edit: I don't want to derail this thread any further, so go back to the discussion.
The Incredible Hulk was leaps millions of times better than Ang Lee's raping of the character.
The story in the first movie was crap, revolving around a dad and his mutant dogs. I stopped caring about Banner halfway through.
The second movie had a story that kept going toward something more real whilst simultaneously incorporating Iron Man AND Captain America. It stands well as a solo movie, but the fact that it intertwines so much of the upcoming Avengers storyline made it GREAT!
Eric Bana is a good actor, no doubt, but he was out of his element in that movie. Norton has proved time and time again that he is one the best actors in Hollywood. Tim Roth was awesome also. He played Emil Blonsky perfectly! I liked this movie better than Iron Man, which I also loved.
I liked Incredible Hulk better but Hulk is by no means bad.
Hulk definitely nailed the psychology of the Hulk better. I could've done without the dog fight. It was better cast too for the most part. Eric Bana played Bruce Banner differently, but very well in his own way.
Incredible Hulk was more fun to watch, had better effects, and fit the original stories better. Edward Norton nailed Bruce Banner. As far as General Ross and Betty, I preferred the first's casting.
Originally posted by ankur29
they shoud lof just done a sequel for the 1st and saved time and money
I just watched the Incredible Hulk(this time with a better print) and I found:
-Norton's a cardboard Bruce Banner.He doesn't bring that depth to it like Eric did.Maybe because it wasn't much about his psycology but still I don't think he matches up the character's sheer strength.His sleek and frail body and meek voice sometimes looked comical to me.
-Liv Tyler is almost always breathless for no reason.Looks like she didn't get out of Arwen.Her dialogue delivery is not good as compared to Jenny's.
-General Ross is more of a wimp than a General.He's not threatening at all like the HUlk one.
-The action was ok.Since I'm not much of an action fan I can't really tell how good it was.I found it comical sometimes.But it was ok.
-The music isn't that memorable.The Hulk's theme got stuck with me.It was good and different.I can still recall it.
I think both movies have their strong points. Ang Lees, Hulk really isn't a bad movie and aside from a few bad decisions it is a very good movie. The only thing that Kept Ang Lee's Hulk from reaching it's full potential was it's pacing and the lack of a fully developed villain. I also think the Hulk could have been toned down a bit. His leaping abilities were a bit much but again the only real problem with the movie was the fact that, Hulk and Banner didn't have a defined antagonist. It seemed that the military was going to be the main enemy but considering that they offered no real threat to the Hulk there was no sense of struggle there. When the real villain was finally identified and introduced, the movie was over.
The Incredible Hulk felt much more like the incredible Hulk. It felt like the story was centered more on the Incredible Hulk and giving fans what they wanted, rather than focusing on some internal, duality struggle that most fans didn't care about. the only problem i had with this one was the lack of development between Betty and Banner as well the development of Blonskys; character, but these are minor gripes that didn't effect the overall quality of the movie. This one had everything the fans yearned for...,great effects, badass action, top notch acting and casting and a classic villain. The only real disappointment with this movie is the lack of success it had. finally, someone listened to what the fans demanded and when it was delivered, the fans seemed to turn their back.
Both had great points.
If you add them together you'd get the perfect Hulk movie. Both of them captured the two major elements of his character perfectly. Ang Lee nailed the psychological side, Louis Leterrier nailed the action side.
Not to say Ang Lee is incapable of doing action, I just don't think there was enough to fill a three hour movie. The scene with the tanks remains awesome, though.
-AC