Dr Manhattan Vs

Manhattan can divide himself into as many projections of himself as he likes and, presumably, still exert as much power from each of those "clones" as he does when he is just one.

He can effectively just think where he wants to be and he's there making him far faster than superman.

Doomsday's been in a film? Was that an animated one?

Dr. Manhattan is a living being, right?

I think "sentient" would be more accurate.

He's described as "ageless and indestructable"

At the end of "Watchmen" he is to leave the known universe and go and create life. Effectively stating that he's away to be a God. Do any of the people on that list have anything remotely resembling that kind of power?

It's all very well being able to exert massive amounts of kinetic force like Superman or Doomsday but I don't think that's of any use against a being that doesn't feel physical pain anyway.

I'm guessing he would just disassemble all of them.

A few of the geniuses on the list might be able to replicate what Manhattan did to himself though...Then we'd really have a fight.

On another note, this reminds me of the Silver Surfer and how disappointed I am with his character in the F4 film. The above list is pretty much what the Surfer was meant to be... (well minus a few powers, like making copies of himself)

Originally posted by jaden101

Doomsday's been in a film? Was that an animated one?

At the end of "Watchmen" he is to leave the known universe and go and create life. Effectively stating that he's away to be a God. Do any of the people on that list have anything remotely resembling that kind of power?

- Yea Doomsday was in an animated the animated film Superman😄oomsday. Nothing too special though, but stronger than the animated Supes.

- I think he went to Mars... (could be wrong).

- Anyway, as powerful as he is, he isn't omnipotent. Ozymandias was able to use tachyons to cloud his precognition. I'm sure with the prep time and along with the other genius' (perhaps smarter) would be able to think of something, as well as coming up with a plan that utilizes the other powers on the team.

Manhattan can't be killed and he can de-atomize someone with a single thought.

Imo the only person who might come close to beating Manhattan is Dark Phoenix. Nothing in the physical realm can harm Manhattan.

I think he went to Mars... (could be wrong).

Went to Mars during the film...Left the known universe to create life at the end of the film.

- Anyway, as powerful as he is, he isn't omnipotent. Ozymandias was able to use tachyons to cloud his precognition. I'm sure with the prep time and along with the other genius' (perhaps smarter) would be able to think of something, as well as coming up with a plan that utilizes the other powers on the team.

I think omnipotent doesn't accurately describe Manhattan anyway. It implies that he can do anything which is false as it's widely recognised that while, without interference, he can see the future (although it's not the future to him as he doesn't see time in a linear way) he can't do anything about it...An truly omnipotent being would be able to do something about it....So even without Ozymandias' interference he wouldn't be truly omnipotent.

^ True that. But anyone who watches too many superhero movies and comics usually gets detached from its true meaning when writers throw around words like "Gods" and "omnipotence" freely.

Originally posted by Placidity
^ Yea?

Ok I found I list of his powers...

• Complete awareness and control of basic atomic particles.

• Size alteration.

• Can change the coloration of his skin, as well as the composition of his clothing.

• Density Control. (Phasing)

• Can reverse entropy.

• Precognition/Post cognition (in terms of his perception of time).

• Can augment his strength to unknown limits.

• Does not appear to age.

• Does not seem to require food, water, or air.

• Immortality.

• Invulnerable.

• Can create copies of himself which act independently of each other, but operate in an intelligent collective fashion.

• Creation of Force Fields.

• Can transmute matter into different states or even different types of matter.

• Can create matter.

• Teleportation.

• Telekinesis (at least on par with Dark Phoenix, superior in terms of complex manipulation of multiple objects with extreme precision and awareness)

And adding to the list:

- Genius Intellect beyond human comprehension
- Possible Creation of Life (he talks about creating life on Mars)
- Teleport others to anywhere he wishes.
- Telepathic Communication
- 'Has walked across the surface of the Sun'

Feel free to add to the list if some have been left out

It seems that with prep, they could figure something out.

But, with prep, the Dr. could also do something about it.

It's too confusing for me. Too many potential futures with mitigation, reducing the possible number of futures.

I'm Reed Richards MIGHT think of a way around this...but probably not.

Their only bet is to duplicate a Manhattan. However, this may err on the side of that person siding with Dr. Manhattan.

Why are they fighting?

Also, I am not thinking that Magic would do jack. However, no magic was done in that comic, so we don't know how it would act. I'd assume any physical spells would be useless, such as stupify, avada kedavara.

Not sure what these guys would do seeing how he can reform. But with Reed, Stark, Ozymandias, magicians, and perhaps Doom I suppose anything is possible.

Does Manhattan get any prep? That's a game changer because he's smarter than alot of people on that list.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Not sure what these guys would do seeing how he can reform. But with Reed, Stark, Ozymandias, magicians, and perhaps Doom I suppose anything is possible.

Does Manhattan get any prep? That's a game changer because he's smarter than alot of people on that list.

He's far smarter than any person on that list by far, which makes things retardly difficult to compare.

Using these kinds of characters is pathetic. It's not even a fight.

He can blink them out of existence by blinking. Nonsense fight.

-AC

The only weapon that could, maybe, stand a chance against Manhattan's near omnipotence would be Hal Jordan's Power Ring, However, the Hal Jordan from the First Flight movie is still just a rookie Green Lantern and is nowhere near his full potential.

Everyone else dies. Like, instantly.

Originally posted by Placidity
^ Yea?

Ok I found I list of his powers...

• Complete awareness and control of basic atomic particles.

• Size alteration.

• Can change the coloration of his skin, as well as the composition of his clothing.

• Density Control. (Phasing)

• Can reverse entropy.

• Precognition/Post cognition (in terms of his perception of time).

• Can augment his strength to unknown limits.

• Does not appear to age.

• Does not seem to require food, water, or air.

• Immortality.

• Invulnerable.

• Can create copies of himself which act independently of each other, but operate in an intelligent collective fashion.

• Creation of Force Fields.

• Can transmute matter into different states or even different types of matter.

• Can create matter.

• Teleportation.

• Telekinesis (at least on par with Dark Phoenix, superior in terms of complex manipulation of multiple objects with extreme precision and awareness)

And adding to the list:

- Genius Intellect beyond human comprehension
- Possible Creation of Life (he talks about creating life on Mars)
- Teleport others to anywhere he wishes.
- Telepathic Communication
- 'Has walked across the surface of the Sun'

Feel free to add to the list if some have been left out

How much of that has he done in the movies now? If we're going off of Comic feats and bios then Surfer destroys him. Dr. M in the movies hasn't fought anyone like Ghost Rider, or Surfer. Add in the time machine that they have and the brilliant minds of Reed and Doom?

I ****ing hate superheroes that are like all powerful.

It's a good thing you haven't got the first clue about them then, isn't it?

They're like that for a reason, and it's not so they can have "fights".

-AC

Not that much to get. This link explained it fairly well:

http://watchmen.wikia.com/wiki/Jon_Osterman

editPowers and abilitiesJon is the only character in the Watchmen series to explicitly possess superhuman abilities (although the details of the plot presuppose the existence of genuine human psychics). Throughout Watchmen, he is shown to be immensely powerful and seemingly invulnerable to all harm; even when his body is disintegrated, he can reconstruct it. Jon has complete awareness of and control over atomic and subatomic particles. He can alter his body's size, coloration, density, and strength. He does not appear to age, need food (although he is shown to eatTemplate:Fact regardless of this), water, or air, and is, for all intents and purposes, immortal. He can teleport himself and others over great (even interplanetary) distances.

Jon's near-limitless powers are further amplified in comparison to the apparent lack of any other "super-powered" individuals. Although Veidt is obviously the second-most dangerous character in the series, as Jon himself observes, "...the world's smartest man means no more to me than its smartest termite."

In addition to these powers, Jon is able to phase any part of his body through solid objects without damaging them, produce multiple copies of himself which function independently of each other, project destructive energy, create force fields, transmute and create matter, move objects without physically touching them (telekinesis), reverse entropyTemplate:Fact, and, he suggests, create life and walk on the surface of the sun. At one point it is stated that, in the event of a nuclear war, he would be capable of destroying upwards of 99% of all Soviet nuclear missiles while at the same time 'destroying' large areas of Russia. As a result of these capabilities, Jon becomes central to the United States' Cold War strategy of deterrence.

Due to his non-linear perception of time, he sees the past, present and future simultaneously.

You don't have to be a die hard Watchmen fan to see Manhattan is pretty much invincible.

I'm not sure Doom is all that brilliant in the films. He didn't help Reed with Surfer, it seemed he just watched. Stark and Ozymandias seem smarter.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
How much of that has he done in the movies now?

All of that is in the film. His comic feats are non-existent I think, he was just implied to be godly.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You don't have to be a die hard Watchmen fan to see Manhattan is pretty much invincible.

Way to miss my point.

-AC

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